Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Also, if legit, I’m going to guess something like 4/$70M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Sure. Why not. Now can we do something about 2B? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Also, if legit, I’m going to guess something like 4/$70M. I'll say 4 years at $15.5M per year with a $5M buyout of a 5th year option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Also, if legit, I’m going to guess something like 4/$70M. No chance in hell I'd rather do this over ~1 year/13M for Gallo, but ultimately, it'd be nice to see the Sox adding good players even if this isn't a very efficient use of the money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I'm guessing 5/80 (16 AAV). From what I've read, a fifth year is what was needed from teams to separate themselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I absolutely adore the fact that the dumbass foodie accounts haven't had s%*# on this rumor. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, DirtySox said: I absolutely adore the fact that the dumbass foodie accounts haven't had s%*# on this rumor. It's almost like they're all total frauds and none of them have actual sources 🙂 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: He is a little inconsistent and not all the metrics agree from year to year. However, the last 2 years he has had a positive UZR, a positive DRS, and an OAA of 0. Prior to that, UZR didn't like him in 2018-2020 and OAA and DRS didn't like him in 2019 - however none of those were the kinds of deep chasms that the White Sox saw from their corner OFs last year. In general, I get the impression of a guy who has become a stable if unspectacular fielder who won't carry you to wins based on his defense but who won't embarrass himself out there even if he's struggling with something that year. OF defensive metrics are often team dependent. It's possible he has gotten better in the last 2 years. It's also possible defensive metrics can't account for years of playing next to JBJ in a great defensive outfield. With Betts in right, Boston could shade to left. Therefore Benintendi did not catch a bunch of balls that he could have gotten, but JBJ got them instead. He may have the same problem with Robert, but that doesn't mean he's a bad outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Sure. Why not. Now can we do something about 2B? Really think they go internal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Would be nice if a professional insider like Rosenthal leaked this We really do need confirmation from someone legit. We are all so desperate for a move despite being an unsubstantiated rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just worried about the dollar amount for what seems like an average player at best with no pop in his bat from a team that cries poor constantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, fathom said: Really think they go internal This would be a disaster. How anyone could feel confident what they have currently in place would be better than replacement level is beyond me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I'll say 4 years at $15.5M per year with a $5M buyout of a 5th year option. I could see that. I don’t think it will exceed Grandal’s deal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Timmy U said: OF defensive metrics are often team dependent. It's possible he has gotten better in the last 2 years. It's also possible defensive metrics can't account for years of playing next to JBJ in a great defensive outfield. With Betts in right, Boston could shade to left. Therefore Benintendi did not catch a bunch of balls that he could have gotten, but JBJ got them instead. He may have the same problem with Robert, but that doesn't mean he's a bad outfielder. As a relevant reminder, coming off of a severe leg injury in 2021, Robert was no longer an elite defensive CF last year. Whether that carries over I offer no guarantees, but it is definitely relevant to that discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Vote4Pedro said: Just worried about the dollar amount for what seems like an average player at best with no pop in his bat from a team that cries poor constantly. People are making him sound like he’s Podsednik at the plate. No reason to think he can’t hit 15-20 homers. Our lefty hitters have been so bad, but GRF is paradise for a lefty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: No chance in hell I'd rather do this over ~1 year/13M for Gallo, but ultimately, it'd be nice to see the Sox adding good players even if this isn't a very efficient use of the money. I’m 100% nervous about giving a four year deal to Benintendi, but at this point I need some something to be excited about for the 2023 season and this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I'm guessing 5/80 (16 AAV). From what I've read, a fifth year is what was needed from teams to separate themselves Oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: People are making him sound like he’s Podsednik at the plate. No reason to think he can’t hit 15-20 homers. Our lefty hitters have been so bad, but GRF is paradise for a lefty. But I was told that right-center field was a dead zone last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Really think they go internal I think they go for Lowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: As a relevant reminder, coming off of a severe leg injury in 2021, Robert was no longer an elite defensive CF last year. Whether that carries over I offer no guarantees, but it is definitely relevant to that discussion. If there's 1 thing I'm not concerned about at all for 2023, it's Robert's defense. His issues seemed mostly vision related which is scary but you'd think has been cleared up by now. Edited December 16, 2022 by maxjusttyped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m getting a new puppy for the kids today, so the White Sox adding a legit free agent would make it something truly special. I wonder what you will name the pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, poppysox said: I wonder what you will name the pup. He can’t take Madrigal, you already did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, poppysox said: I wonder what you will name the pup. Rocco, after my favorite Twins manager 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Really think they go internal I really like Sosa, but I'm not sold he's the answer for this upcoming season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: It's almost like they're all total frauds and none of them have actual sources 🙂 Cracks me up, if you're going to spew nonsense on Twitter just for followers, why not set your sights on a bigger demo than hot stove interested Chicago White Sox fans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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