Lip Man 1 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 According to Heyman: According to MLB Network insider Jon Heyman, the Astros’ “dream acquisition” is White Sox right-hander Dylan Cease, though it’s unclear if the 27-year-old will be part of Chicago’s sale. Heyman previously reported that Cease, who is controllable through 2025, is one of the players the White Sox are looking to retain and build around. It’s possible, then, that the Astros could pivot to another White Sox starter, Lucas Giolito, who is an impending free agent. Per Heyman, Giolito is one of the alternatives Houston is considering, along with Cubs right-hander Marcus Stroman (opt-out), Cardinals left-hander Jordan Montgomery (impending free agent) and Tigers lefty Eduardo Rodriguez (opt-out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 They don't have the prospects. Move along. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 They can't afford either. Unless they deal from the ML which is rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Do they have any top 100 prospects? If they have a bad minor league system, a depth deal isn't very desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 They're a terrible fit for a trade. System is weak overall and heavy on outfielders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 We can talk to them about Clevinger and Lynn and relievers but def not a fit for Giolito or Cease. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Yikes, their prospects are weak. They'd have to empty the farm or deal from the ML roster. I don't even think I could put together a reasonable package for either Cease or Giolito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I wouldn't mind a package headed by Ryan Clifford for Gio, I don't think they have enough to get Cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: We can talk to them about Clevinger and Lynn and relievers but def not a fit for Giolito or Cease. Yes, one of those two could be moved to Houston since they wouldn't get much back outside of payroll relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Quote “I don’t think you’re going to find a top-of-the-rotation guy at this time of year — unless you’re going to mortgage the farm,” Brown said. “It’s probably going to be for a rental.” Brown has said the Astros would balk at dealing top prospects, specifically outfielder Drew Gilbert, for a player on an expiring contract. Houston’s minor league system is generally ranked in the bottom half of baseball, and Brown, a longtime amateur scout who just completed his first draft as GM, has discussed the importance of restocking the system for the organization’s long-term health. FWIW. They do have some depth in both outfielders and potentially at their catcher's spot. There's a potential match for Giolito here, they'd actually have to pay a good amount for him, but I don't see them having enough to catch my interest for Cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 43 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: FWIW. They do have some depth in both outfielders and potentially at their catcher's spot. There's a potential match for Giolito here, they'd actually have to pay a good amount for him, but I don't see them having enough to catch my interest for Cease. This is why I'm ok with this report - more competition means more/better pieces. If they really want him, they're going to have to outbid others and really go after him. This can only help us (I hope). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Trading Cease to them feels very Machado to the Dodgers vibes. Quantity over quality. I’d much rather work with a team not at the bottom of farm system rankings. Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 yeah they don't have the bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Who the eff wants Giolito? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Obviously everyone views their own system as more valuable than outsiders, but funny responses to this from Astros fans https://twitter.com/astrosCTH/status/1681401232932368386?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 The White Sox really liked Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford from last year's draft. Also, Dana Brown didn't draft either guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The White Sox really liked Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford from last year's draft. Also, Dana Brown didn't draft either guy. Jimmy, what's going on on the trade front? Anything close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 LOL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: LOL Hunter Brown, Yainer Diaz, Gilbert, Clifford, Pena - Done If Cease + Robert were even on the table, I'd be talking to Baltimore. They have like 10 guys in AAA ready to go and not enough spots for them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, striker said: Hunter Brown, Yainer Diaz, Gilbert, Clifford, Pena - Done If Cease + Robert were even on the table, I'd be talking to Baltimore. They have like 10 guys in AAA ready to go and not enough spots for them all. If they were even available (doubt they are), I wouldn't package them. Definitely talk to the O's and Reds, teams with a surplus of young talent and unlikely to sign star type players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 19 hours ago, T R U said: They're a terrible fit for a trade. System is weak overall and heavy on outfielders. The weak part I get, but we can't be picky when it comes to positions. Just get some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 If they trade Robert, I’m done for good. I’m almost at the point anyways with this garbage dump organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 40 minutes ago, ron883 said: The weak part I get, but we can't be picky when it comes to positions. Just get some talent. The problem is their top 4 prospects are all OFers, we desperately need pitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 51 minutes ago, striker said: Hunter Brown, Yainer Diaz, Gilbert, Clifford, Pena - Done If Cease + Robert were even on the table, I'd be talking to Baltimore. They have like 10 guys in AAA ready to go and not enough spots for them all. I'd easily reject that offer if Robert is available. 0 bluechippers there and you'd need AT LEAST 1 to just trade robert alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: LOL I mean, without sarcasm, that would cost more than Ohtani. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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