BamaDoc Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) We have heard that he is not being traded but if Texas called and had an offer of Evan Carter (#6 mlb) and Owen White (#43 mlb) plus something more say Mitch Bratt lhp and Marc Church rhp , what would you say? Edited July 29 by BamaDoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Cease should be traded which means the Sox won't do it. You could get a haul for him in this seller's market. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Im not convinced Cease is a perennial Cy Young candidate so trading him makes sense 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 19 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: We have heard that he is not being traded but if Texas called and had an offer of Evan Carter (#6 mlb) and Owen White (#43 mlb) plus something more say Mitch Bratt lhp and Marc Church rhp , what would you say? “We have a deal” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 yeah cease is trade worthy to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I get everyone is in a trade frenzy but the deadline is not the time to trade Cease when only a handful of teams are involved. If they decide to trade Cease (and I don't think they will) the off season is the time to do it when all the teams are involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 13 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I get everyone is in a trade frenzy but the deadline is not the time to trade Cease when only a handful of teams are involved. If they decide to trade Cease (and I don't think they will) the off season is the time to do it when all the teams are involved. I think the message of the last few days is that there is no better time to trade a pitcher than the trade deadline. In the offseason, if teams need pitching, they have the free agent market. They have only trades right now, and that means there are only a few options. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 13 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I get everyone is in a trade frenzy but the deadline is not the time to trade Cease when only a handful of teams are involved. If they decide to trade Cease (and I don't think they will) the off season is the time to do it when all the teams are involved. The other side of the coin is in the offseason all the FAs will be dumped on the market including some very good ones so why give away your farm when you only have to pay money? Right now some of the most needy teams are those with very deep farm systems (BAL, LAD, CIN etc). As others have said all this repetitive Nightengale tweets of Cease not available probably means he's very available....for the right price. It will prolly take no fewer than 3 MLB ready or almost MLB ready Top 100 prospects on the higher end of the top 100. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 35 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I think the message of the last few days is that there is no better time to trade a pitcher than the trade deadline. In the offseason, if teams need pitching, they have the free agent market. They have only trades right now, and that means there are only a few options. This. You also get the potential for desperation which doesn’t exist in the offseason. I’m not a big trade Cease guy, but if you can get two top 50 prospects with one of them being a blue chipper plus some additional depth you gotta do it. Also, like 20 teams are in some form of contention. Most of those teams would have interest in Cease, even though a decent chunk of them probably don’t have the pieces. That doesn’t really change in December. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 This front office and owner blows! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: Bob doing his part to keep building the "trade at the last second" market for Cease and Bummer's trades. IMO....they are gone. Dude should be getting a check from the team at this point...lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Middleton will be a giveaway for 40 man relief. Mediocre numbers (he's come down to earth recently) without the "he was good for a contender back in the day" pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Never understood why the Sox always share their intel with Nightengale. Why not give it to the more local Sox writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: Never understood why the Sox always share their intel with Nightengale. Why not give it to the more local Sox writers. Jerry doesn't go to the same local Arizona breakfast place as the local writers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Holding onto Bummer is annoying 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Sure as hell feels like Sox are using Bob to let the fans know this isn’t going to be a rebuild. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I get everyone is in a trade frenzy but the deadline is not the time to trade Cease when only a handful of teams are involved. If they decide to trade Cease (and I don't think they will) the off season is the time to do it when all the teams are involved. I don’t see a scenario where the Sox contend next year and they’ll get more now then they’d get next deadline or off-season 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 you don’t know how this club looks in a year. If we’re in contention you cannot go out and get a Dylan Cease. Absolutely should not trade him unless someone blows you away with a one sided trade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don’t see a scenario where the Sox contend next year and they’ll get more now then they’d get next deadline or off-season None of us do. Doesn’t mean these dopes don’t. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don’t see a scenario where the Sox contend next year and they’ll get more now then they’d get next deadline or off-season I disagree with getting more this deadline instead of the off season part but it doesn't matter. They're not trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: you don’t know how this club looks in a year. If we’re in contention you cannot go out and get a Dylan Cease. Absolutely should not trade him unless someone blows you away with a one sided trade. Problem is, the Sox are very good at hoping to contend. They are very bad at actually trying to contend. I just can’t envision a scenario that doesn’t include the same half-assed attempt to fill holes while crossing their fingers for better injury luck. They are so bad at this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I disagree with getting more this deadline instead of the off season part but it doesn't matter. They're not trading him. Of course they aren't. It might be the worst run organization in baseball. Not at least exploring the possibility is extremely short-sighted. This will be a bad team next year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: The other side of the coin is in the offseason all the FAs will be dumped on the market including some very good ones so why give away your farm when you only have to pay money? Right now some of the most needy teams are those with very deep farm systems (BAL, LAD, CIN etc). As others have said all this repetitive Nightengale tweets of Cease not available probably means he's very available....for the right price. It will prolly take no fewer than 3 MLB ready or almost MLB ready Top 100 prospects on the higher end of the top 100. Seller's market right now. They will be able to choose from Ohtani, Stroman (no QO), likely Snell, Giolito, Urias, Eddie Rodriguez...Nola if the Phillies let him go. Well here's the full list once November hits. Starting pitcher: Carlos Carrasco, Mike Clevinger (mutual option), Alex Cobb (club option), , Jack Flaherty, Lucas Giolito, Sonny Gray, Andrew Heaney (opt-out), Kyle Hendricks (club option), Clayton Kershaw, Lance Lynn (club option), Kenta Maeda, Tyler Mahle, Sean Manaea (opt-out), Germán Márquez (club option), Wade Miley (mutual option), Frankie Montas, Jordan Montgomery, Charlie Morton (club option), Aaron Nola, Shohei Ohtani, Eduardo Rodriguez (opt-out), Hyun Jin Ryu, Max Scherzer (opt-out), Luis Severino, Blake Snell, Ross Stripling (opt-out), Marcus Stroman (opt-out), Noah Syndergaard, Julio Urías, Michael Wacha (club and player options), Alex Wood... Have a feeling White Sox will end up with a couple from this list, like a Jake Odorizzi, Months or Luis Severino. Edited July 29 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 15 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: you don’t know how this club looks in a year. If we’re in contention you cannot go out and get a Dylan Cease. Absolutely should not trade him unless someone blows you away with a one sided trade. How are they in contention next year? What does that look like? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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