Buehrle>Wood Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Not shocking at all, would also mean Pedro returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I would become suicidal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Of course they did lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 And as soon as he arrives he won’t be able to catch anymore and will lose all power. Makes total sense to add another catcher with all the others we have brought in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 We already have a catcher who's catching skills no longer exist. And we already have 142 DH types. So...this is a move right up Hahn's alley... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Oh and there goes all of your so called “free agent” money as well, but hey at least he is a Grifol guy 🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Man.......lots of hate for Salvi..... He would be the best catcher we have had here in a long time, someone who can help the young pitchers, and a FUCKING leader. Something this bunch lacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 It sounds like another full rebuild, which I’m not against since this one failed. Too bad Hahn is involved, but screw it, trade everyone and build from the ground up again. Grifol would probably be a point A to B guy, and Salvy would be a bridge to the Angels kid and give some veteran leadership. So yeah, I’ve given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, 2Deep said: Man.......lots of hate for Salvi..... He would be the best catcher we have had here in a long time, someone who can help the young pitchers, and a FUCKING leader. Something this bunch lacks. Im sorry but this team does not need to trade for a 33 year old catcher who cant catch anymore and is owed $20 million a year for the next two seasons. Hes barely better than Grandal right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, 2Deep said: Man.......lots of hate for Salvi..... He would be the best catcher we have had here in a long time, someone who can help the young pitchers, and a FUCKING leader. Something this bunch lacks. The guy who rates out with a WORSE arm than Grandal, and currently at -5.3 Defensive Runs Prevented? (Grandal is -2.2 btw). Yeah, pretty sure we don't need a catcher that is somehow even WORSE than the current catcher....especially with all of the young arms we're about to be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Capn12 said: The guy who rates out with a WORSE arm than Grandal, and currently at -5.3 Defensive Runs Prevented? (Grandal is -2.2 btw). Yeah, pretty sure we don't need a catcher that is somehow even WORSE than the current catcher....especially with all of the young arms we're about to be using. But hey he’s a leader and knows Grifol so you know this will happen and be a massive expensive failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, Capn12 said: The guy who rates out with a WORSE arm than Grandal, and currently at -5.3 Defensive Runs Prevented? (Grandal is -2.2 btw). Yeah, pretty sure we don't need a catcher that is somehow even WORSE than the current catcher....especially with all of the young arms we're about to be using. Love analytics/metrics but sometimes they make no sense. Watch majority of the games that Salvi catches and Grandal catches.......then tell me who is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: But hey he’s a leader and knows Grifol so you know this will happen and be a massive expensive failure Exactly. They're banking on fans thinking that. "He knows Grifol and he's a leader and he used to be great 10 years ago." Forget the fact that he pitches for the Royals, that Grifol is a failure as a manager because he never should've been one or that he's somehow as mediocre, if not more, than the current catcher we have. Someone take Hahn's phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, 2Deep said: Love analytics/metrics but sometimes they make no sense. Watch majority of the games that Salvi catches and Grandal catches.......then tell me who is better. Neither is better, they're both old bad catchers on two shitty teams. Please, just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Trading for Perez would be the most White Sox thing ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 grifol should be fired for suggesting this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 13 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Trading for Perez would be the most White Sox thing ever. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 11 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: But hey he’s a leader and knows Grifol so you know this will happen and be a massive expensive failure I think you understate the importance of something like this. Obviously it depends what you'd have to give up for him, but someone needs to pair at C with Lee next season and is probably the exact sort of locker room presence the team lacks. It is also beneficial that he has a prior relationship with the manager. What is the impact of this sort of thing on baseball outcomes? Who knows, but I don't think you can write it off either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWsideSoxfan Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 No way. No more KC connections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 11 minutes ago, nrockway said: I think you understate the importance of something like this. Obviously it depends what you'd have to give up for him, but someone needs to pair at C with Lee next season and is probably the exact sort of locker room presence the team lacks. It is also beneficial that he has a prior relationship with the manager. What is the impact of this sort of thing on baseball outcomes? Who knows, but I don't think you can write it off either. The only one I would trade for Perez is Moncada and his entire salary plus the Royals have to eat half of Perez's salary. Too bad Royals aren't stupid though. Edit: On second thought, the Royals have to also take Grandal and his entire salary too. Edited August 1 by South Side Fireworks Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, nrockway said: I think you understate the importance of something like this. Obviously it depends what you'd have to give up for him, but someone needs to pair at C with Lee next season and is probably the exact sort of locker room presence the team lacks. It is also beneficial that he has a prior relationship with the manager. What is the impact of this sort of thing on baseball outcomes? Who knows, but I don't think you can write it off either. Meh I’ll pass. You will be blocking Lee from getting the majority of the reps. Besides, more than likely the next time they are competitive grifol will be long gone so I don’t care what kind of relationship he has with the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 12 minutes ago, 2Deep said: Love analytics/metrics but sometimes they make no sense. Watch majority of the games that Salvi catches and Grandal catches.......then tell me who is better. yeah, not gonna lie I also don't buy some of the advanced defensive metrics on catchers. You'd think if Perez was so bad at throwing runners out he'd see more attempts against him. There are enough pitches and innings he's caught where you'd expect that stuff to show out. But mainly those services hate Perez now because of his framing, and I honestly don't care anymore. Would rather have a guy that can handle a pitching staff than masturbate over a skill that keeps being more and more random each year - and that's because the difference between a top and bottom catcher in framing is much better than it used to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 If they give up anything of value that would be insane. Hahn would be a moron to give up anything for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I'd trade Grifol for him if Royals paid his contract down to $5M per. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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