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I just don't trust at all the bulls to make a move like that and end up better off. Theyll trade for him and think he's their new core rather than a part of a paper clip trade.

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28 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

You have to think Beal moving would coincide with Jimmy Butler going to the Suns.  Probably a ton of moving parts here 

There's been a bunch of articles suggesting it might take a 4 to 5  team deal to make the parts work. The Bulls would clear Lavine in this, and Beal could be bought out in the 2026-2027 season. Add in draft pick compensation and it accomplishes two goals for the Bulls.

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34 minutes ago, bmags said:

I just don't trust at all the bulls to make a move like that and end up better off. Theyll trade for him and think he's their new core rather than a part of a paper clip trade.

I agree with this - but Danny Ainge would make a deal like this, than figure out a way to get more for Beal a year from now. Maybe Bulls can do that but I doubt it. Have zero faith in AK or Reinsdorf owner franchised right now. 

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I'm also just in general, granted I don't watch nba right now, floored that Lavine was brought back to the bulls and it has been the best case scenario. He's played really well, he's been a good sport. And yet he is still apparently an absolute negative in the minds of every other NBA gm. 

I've seen so many borderline bad nba scorers still get passed around for decent hauls, but Lavine broke everyones back. The NBA found the guy they can't suffer to pay as a max.

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On 1/27/2025 at 12:26 PM, bmags said:

I'm also just in general, granted I don't watch nba right now, floored that Lavine was brought back to the bulls and it has been the best case scenario. He's played really well, he's been a good sport. And yet he is still apparently an absolute negative in the minds of every other NBA gm. 

I've seen so many borderline bad nba scorers still get passed around for decent hauls, but Lavine broke everyones back. The NBA found the guy they can't suffer to pay as a max.

He's not 30% of the cap good is the problem. Fortunately, I don't think he's a negative value contract anymore like he has been since he signed the extension. Zach with two years left on his deal, and after having this nice season (if it continues and he remains healthy), I think is pretty easy to trade even if he's owed $100mil.

They have to trade him, they can't roll with him. They screwed up too much everywhere else on the roster. Now you're almost wondering about what you need to add to get rid of Pat Williams's contract. Or the absurd extension they'll almost certainly give Giddey. 

Everything said about Getz is true of Karnisovas. This is the biggest idiot in professional sports. 

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On 1/27/2025 at 1:26 PM, bmags said:

I'm also just in general, granted I don't watch nba right now, floored that Lavine was brought back to the bulls and it has been the best case scenario. He's played really well, he's been a good sport. And yet he is still apparently an absolute negative in the minds of every other NBA gm. 

I've seen so many borderline bad nba scorers still get passed around for decent hauls, but Lavine broke everyones back. The NBA found the guy they can't suffer to pay as a max.

If they were operating under the old CBA, I think it'd be a lot different. But new rules make moving him difficult.

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22 hours ago, nrockway said:

He's not 30% of the cap good is the problem. Fortunately, I don't think he's a negative value contract anymore like he has been since he signed the extension. Zach with two years left on his deal, and after having this nice season (if it continues and he remains healthy), I think is pretty easy to trade even if he's owed $100mil.

They have to trade him, they can't roll with him. They screwed up too much everywhere else on the roster. Now you're almost wondering about what you need to add to get rid of Pat Williams's contract. Or the absurd extension they'll almost certainly give Giddey. 

Everything said about Getz is true of Karnisovas. This is the biggest idiot in professional sports. 

One of the most telling things that happened was when a massive story (like 10k words) came out tracing how the nuggets methodically built a champion featured and named so many people from their front office…and AK wasn’t mentioned once.

It takes a truly incompetent person like Michael reinsdorf to go to one of the best front offices in the game and identify the one lazy, inconsequential person to lead the team.

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6 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

What an absolutely horrible deal for the Mavs. Why?

Shams is literally out here tweeting "Yes, this is real."

There has to be some insane drama that puts Jimmy to shame.

 

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3 hours ago, Quin said:

The Mavs are crazy.

What in the fuckin world? I woke up at like 3am and looked at my phone and saw this business. Absolutely nasty. What? Why? I'm not going back to sleep. This is absurd. I need to talk s%*# on the internet. At least it's Sunday.

Nothing about this deal makes sense for the Mavs...you trade a young superstar under contract for an old, injury prone guy? I really like AD. He's a Chicago guy that I think should've been a Bull. Mavs didn't even get picks. AD is a stud but injury-prone and over 30. Luka is a star, 25-years-old, he's gonna be great for a long time. It's BS man.

 

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It’s amazing how an nba team just believing they are a premier franchise that has to be premier just falls into these deal constantly.

Like if you are the Mavs, and you say “we are trading Luka, best offers only”…you are telling me you doing get Rudy gobert like trade back at least?

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Can’t read the insider content right now but here’s a free one with the same grades

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/los-angeles-lakers/news/luka-doncic-anthony-davis-trade-grades-lakers-mavs-dumbest-trade-nba-history/3ebb24efc0a4bf72941707fe

What struck me in this one is outlining how the Mavs could and should have gotten more. The Lakers had a first rounder in 2031 the Mavs could have insisted on. The Mavs gave up a 2nd rounder when the Lakers had those available. Had they looked elsewhere the Spurs have 9 first rounder picks that could be available for trades. 

I do like that people believed Shams was hacked as more likely than this being real.

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10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And the Bulls still can't move anyone.  What a joke.

Eh for this one I’m gonna give the Bulls a pass because who exactly like have thought to call and ask about Luka? There’s some level of sanity you expect otherwise you are just playing with the trade machine.

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32 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Eh for this one I’m gonna give the Bulls a pass because who exactly like have thought to call and ask about Luka? There’s some level of sanity you expect otherwise you are just playing with the trade machine.

I mean that’s where you have to give the lakers credit. They believe they are a star driven franchise. They have a reputation for getting them. So of course the mavs call them. They also have stars and not fake stars like lavine.

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6 minutes ago, bmags said:

I mean that’s where you have to give the lakers credit. They believe they are a star driven franchise. They have a reputation for getting them. So of course the mavs call them. They also have stars and not fake stars like lavine.

LA is once again becoming the center of the sports universe.  Rams and Chargers both in the playoffs as well.

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