southsider2k5 Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Well the Bulls are making fans everywhere glad they blacked out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 33 minutes ago, fathom said: I hate the Reinsdorf family The fans are really unfair to him, just ask some on Soxtalk.com 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: One second rounder right? They gave up 1 second rounder, and in the process removed the chance of them losing their first round pick this year. With the new cap restrictions, second rounders have value as cheap players. But now they need to include it to fix a prior AKME mistake. All the while other teams reportedly had interest in Zach. To really hammer home the fleece job the Kings just did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 28 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Got 1 pick back for Zach LaVine. Sure it's their own 1st round pick back but that is absolutely terrible. What a joke of an organization. Like with any JR team...it's a road to nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Amendment: Apparently the Spurs already owned the Bulls '25 second rounder, for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 30 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Got 1 pick back for Zach LaVine. Sure it's their own 1st round pick back but that is absolutely terrible. What a joke of an organization. It actually sounds ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 What inspirational message would Tray provide to Bulls' fans after this one? They're the ones getting taken to the cleaners. Sox fans are smart enough to stay away until there's either a competitive roster or at least interesting prospects to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Gonna miss Zach. I almost thought we got De'Aaron Fox back. That guy is dope. I would go to games. This trade is awesome for the Spurs. The Bulls are such a sorry franchise that I don't even care anymore. We got some guys. The "pick back" shouldn't count, it's AK "reversing" a failure. He needs to be out of a job. Maybe Zach and DeRozan can cook up some magic, plus all those picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Now do Vuc and Bust Williams… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, Tony said: Throw in the fact that we know they had two second rounders on the table for Drummond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 The lack of a long-term plan is just astounding. I have more hope in the White Sox righting the ship than I do the Bulls. Michael Reinsdorf is just an absolute boob and this front office is an absolute joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, nrockway said: Gonna miss Zach. I almost thought we got De'Aaron Fox back. That guy is dope. I would go to games. This trade is awesome for the Spurs. The Bulls are such a sorry franchise that I don't even care anymore. We got some guys. The "pick back" shouldn't count, it's AK "reversing" a failure. He needs to be out of a job. Maybe Zach and DeRozan can cook up some magic, plus all those picks. So I was in my car when the espn alert went through. I glanced at the text on my watch and was like oh s%*# - Bulls are getting Fox…alright let’s see what they are trying to do…. Than I turned on radio and realized I was wrong. I hate AK and everything about what they have done but at least this is starting to reset things. The pick they got off their own is worthless since they are likely going to talk but I guess this prevents them from messing up that and not even having a pick. Got to think Vuc ends up in Golden State or Lakers. What will be real interesting is what happens with White, Giddey, Ayo and Ball. Can they find ways to get some more picks or package them for a more intriguing long term candidate? Can they flip the guys they got? Maybe Collin’s or Huerter for more assets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 57 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The lack of a long-term plan is just astounding. I have more hope in the White Sox righting the ship than I do the Bulls. Michael Reinsdorf is just an absolute boob and this front office is an absolute joke. This is true - albeit Bulls have far more resources which makes it even worse for how bad Bulls are ran. Knowing Bulls AK will get fired a few weeks after the deadline but they will let him be the one who starts the blow up… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 They also get a 26M TPE. Knowing Bulls they won’t use it but I would think they could leverage it asap to help another te clear space and facilitate something and get some picks (even if it is buying 3 crappy for like the Suns did a week or two ago - stock up those picks cause you never know what happens and you at least can turn them into cheap depth). Now get rid of Patrick…albeit maybe if he plays like this off the bench they can pawn him off in the offseason. Good god just burn the whole thing down…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Let’s trade White to Magic for one of their first rounders and one of the first round picks this year or in last years draft (ideally DeSilva…but knowing nothing else take a flyer on Jett) plus a filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I am trying to figure out if this front office is worse than the last one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: I am trying to figure out if this front office is worse than the last one Well the last one had some stacked teams and this one has always been s%*#. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 https://sports.yahoo.com/no-matter-how-you-look-at-it-the-mavs-process-in-dealing-luka-doncic-makes-little-sense-201815743.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Reinsdorf is an abomination in two sports. What an owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks-deserve-blame-for-failing-luka-doncic-lakers-trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 hours ago, Quin said: With the new cap restrictions, second rounders have value as cheap players. But now they need to include it to fix a prior AKME mistake. All the while other teams reportedly had interest in Zach. Oh my you mean an insider leaked that other teams would pay more and there was tons of interest? Well that clearly settles it, insiders off the record never have ulterior motives. We can count on them to be completely correct. I always compliment and believe insiders. Look, LaVine was a problem. He was good enough to push the Bulls to 11th in the conference, but not really higher, and if you want to talk about a mistake - it was tripling down on him with a contract that no one else in the league would do. They did what they had to do to clean that mess up yesterday. They got out of that contract without sacrificing a lottery pick to do it. If you want to criticize for the contract, go ahead you’re correct, that was where they really got stuck in multiple years of stagnation. Yesterday was what they had to do to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I miss caring about the Bulls. The whole LaVine era was just nothing. Straight up purgatory, and probably the most boring stretch I can remember for a Chicago sports team in a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, Snopek said: I miss caring about the Bulls. The whole LaVine era was just nothing. Straight up purgatory, and probably the most boring stretch I can remember for a Chicago sports team in a long time. They quite literally ended up right where they started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 59 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Oh my you mean an insider leaked that other teams would pay more and there was tons of interest? Well that clearly settles it, insiders off the record never have ulterior motives. We can count on them to be completely correct. I always compliment and believe insiders. Look, LaVine was a problem. He was good enough to push the Bulls to 11th in the conference, but not really higher, and if you want to talk about a mistake - it was tripling down on him with a contract that no one else in the league would do. They did what they had to do to clean that mess up yesterday. They got out of that contract without sacrificing a lottery pick to do it. If you want to criticize for the contract, go ahead you’re correct, that was where they really got stuck in multiple years of stagnation. Yesterday was what they had to do to end it. Fair point re: Insiders. But as a counterpoint, AKME are some of (if not the) worst at asset management in the league. I'll argue that bigger sins were: Not trading DeMar and Caruso once it was clear things were falling apart, extending Pat, extending Vuc and just an outright refusal to get a real #4. Lavine is one of the best pure scorers in the league. Before the new penalties, that contract was gonna happen for any player. It looked a lot worse with his injury + before his return to form, but contracts like Poole, Beal, Simmons, Grant, Draymond, Middleton, Wiggins (depending on how you view him as a player) and I'd even argue Embiid at this point, were/are all right up there. Someone was gonna give him that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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