caulfield12 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 58 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yeah, the whole slave labor thing has been disproven recently. They were paid work teams. Let's go with The Great Wall then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Let's go with The Great Wall then... Or we could really blow people's mind and tell them the pyramids would have been built up against a riverbed when the Nile used to flow there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Or we could really blow people's mind and tell them the pyramids would have been built up against a riverbed when the Nile used to flow there. The Nile cataracts were rerouted by Alphonse Capone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Make me fuking laugh. A sucker is born every minute but don't count the Reinsdorfs or Ishbias among those gullible enough to buy into this attempted con job. https://chicago.suntimes.com/the-watchdogs/2025/01/31/discovery-partners-institute-university-illinois-the-78-related-midwest-bruce-rauner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 tray throws out the anti-78 bait and soxtalk takes it hook, line and sinker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) On 6/4/2025 at 4:19 PM, nrockway said: I promise you don't need to be a civil engineer to comprehend this. The developers aren't engineers, the financiers aren't engineers, the construction workers aren't. You might be amazed to know that human beings built structures in generally smart places before the field existed. The guy kinda just said common sense things. What are you disputing? I'd also note that that it's a brownfield and the remediation can be costly. The A's definitely didn't want to do environmental remediation on that Howard Brown Terminal site (a far better location for a ballpark than the 78). The site is clearly cursed and you have one liar after another (probably different aspects of the same liar, Related Morons) telling us for the last 50 years that something wonderful is coming there. It's never gonna happen. Plant some trees and be done with it. Just south is a really great park, they ought to extend it A process that would be (relatively) inexpensive, ecologically productive, generally good for surrounding property values. Everybody wins except the Related Companies. Cermak to Polk has a really nice (east bank) riverfront already, I think they ought to plan the area for families, a consistent tax base, rather than for people from outside the city to come in for the day, clog up the roads, then drunk drive home. Particularly when we already have a place like that (SoxPark) and it's perfectly fine, inarguably better situated for regional access. Any governmental official calling for a new ballpark, even if it's entirely privately funded, is a bozo who is contradicting stated Illinois/Chicago policy goals. Disinvesting from the south and west sides is only going to create further problems for everyone in the city. They've "transformed" the Loop over the last decade into a neighborhood with bars, restaurants, expensive condos and now I never want to be in the Loop, particularly after the sun has set. Someone is making some money off these ventures, I'm dubious that it's the City. Giving real estate developers carte blanche to produce urban form and develop the city further toward consumption and waste should not be the governmental perspective. And if you're going to develop a 'megaproject' like this 78 abomination, there absolutely needs to be democratic oversight extending beyond the aldermanic level. Remediation on that would be peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Probably $5 to $10 million~, if it even takes that much. That's nothing for a project like this. Edited June 6 by ron883 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, ron883 said: tray throws out the anti-78 bait and soxtalk takes it hook, line and sinker You too must be an admirer of the Devil's Advocate position online... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: You too must be an admirer of the Devil's Advocate position online... I have to admit, it surprises me when people take the bait on his pro-Reinsdorf takes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Not 100% certain why the U of I, a much promoted anchor tenant at the 78, backed out after spending tens of millions and leaving the State of Illinois holding the bag. One reason that was reported in the last link I posted was that construction costs became much higher than expected. Not a bit higher, but high enough to leave contractors and the State of Illinois out 33 million. Ah, that ain't nothin'. Look, I'm not biting on bulshit thoughtless sarcastic 78 posts or responding any more to this nonsense. Proceed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 31 minutes ago, tray said: Not 100% certain why the U of I, a much promoted anchor tenant at the 78, backed out after spending tens of millions and leaving the State of Illinois holding the bag. One reason that was reported in the last link I posted was that construction costs became much higher than expected. Not a bit higher, but high enough to leave contractors and the State of Illinois out 33 million. Ah, that ain't nothin'. Look, I'm not biting on bulshit thoughtless sarcastic 78 posts or responding any more to this nonsense. Proceed. Yet here you are, two posts in, completely ignoring facts for narratives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Yet here you are, two posts in, completely ignoring facts for narratives. Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 14 hours ago, ron883 said: I have to admit, it surprises me when people take the bait on his pro-Reinsdorf takes. Are you saying that he is actually trolling all of us like, just like you usually do, as the OG Master? Edited June 6 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Changed the title because I kept thinking 78 people died 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 All my blocked homies fighting in this thread. Confirms my decision. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 20 hours ago, Nardiwashere said: "Pyramids of Giza? Any child could do that. Constructing a baseball park in 2025 across the street from a Target? Insurmountable task for civilization." They didn't have to deal with Chicago and Illinois politics as well as the unions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I keep reading that there is a chance of the White Sox moving to Nashville with the new ownership. Who's building and paying for a new stadium in Nashville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I keep reading that there is a chance of the White Sox moving to Nashville with the new ownership. Who's building and paying for a new stadium in Nashville? Forgive me for being snarky in this post but PLEASE, PLEASE stop with the Sox are moving to Nashville crap. It has been pointed out time and time again why economically it doesn't make sense both from a White Sox standpoint and from a MLB position. Plus Ishbia's comments yesterday should put to rest any of the "moving" talk. Regarding your question NASHVILLE'S MAYOR said no money is available for any stadium deals because they spent it all on the Titans new stadium. Sure there's a "chance" the Sox could move to Nashville, there's also a "chance" I could win the lottery, there's a "chance" I'll be asked to do a few White Sox broadcasts and there's a chance I could gain 20 MPH on my fastball and get a second chance at baseball. You seem to be worrying about things just to worry. With respect you need to drop this and stop bringing it up. Again sorry for the way I posted this but this is pure utter unadulterated BS. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 3 hours ago, ptatc said: They didn't have to deal with Chicago and Illinois politics as well as the unions. Ah yes, the good old days when the Pharoah could just kill trouble makers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) FWIW, nothing new in here outside of White Sox brass publicly acknowledging they still think they can make it work. Edited June 9 by Sleepy Harold 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: FWIW, nothing new in here outside of White Sox brass publicly acknowledging they still think they can make it work. But a rando declared it dead?💁♂️ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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77 Hitmen Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) It's not just that tweet from the Fire, this was in the Trib, Sun-Times and the local TV news yesterday as the Fire has released renderings of their new stadium at the 78 to the press. Very impressive. But, I'm a bit surprised they're going with a 22k capacity stadium given soccer's potential to really grow in the coming years. I wonder if there will be the ability to expand seating capacity later. https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/2025/06/16/chicago-fire-stadium-south-loop-renderings-the-78-joe-mansueto The Fire also say that they are open to the possibility of the White Sox building a stadium on the 78. I'll take their word for it over Brodie Brazil. Edited June 17 by 77 Hitmen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said: It's not just that tweet from the Fire, this was in the Trib, Sun-Times and the local TV news yesterday as the Fire has released renderings of their new stadium at the 78 to the press. Very impressive. But, I'm a bit surprised they're going with a 22k capacity stadium given soccer's potential to really grow in the coming years. I wonder if there will be the ability to expand seating capacity later. https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/2025/06/16/chicago-fire-stadium-south-loop-renderings-the-78-joe-mansueto The Fire also say that they are open to the possibility of the White Sox building a stadium on the 78. I'll take their word for it over Brodie Brazil. Probably decided that they would rather have a too full stadium when times are good than an obviously half full one when they aren’t so good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Probably decided that they would rather have a too full stadium when times are good than an obviously half full one when they aren’t so good. Definitely they want a better atmosphere than they have at the 65k capacity Solider Field. I found this wiki page that lists the seating capacities of all the soccer-only stadium in MLS (and NWSL). It looks like 22k seats is about average, though two new MLS stadiums will have 25k seating capacity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer-specific_stadium Maybe there's a cost consideration too since Manseuto is funding the entire cost of the new stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Some more interesting details about the proposed new Fire stadium: https://chicagoyimby.com/2025/06/additional-renderings-and-details-revealed-for-chicago-fire-fc-stadium.html It sounds like they're planning to build an extension of LaSalle St from Roosevelt Rd to avoid a more expensive project to realign the Metra tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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