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QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:19 PM)
how the hell do the Rays have 12 picks in the first 89?

 

Do you not realize how many guys they lost to FA? And the way they draft, wow. They've got a chance to fatten up a system that's already one of the elite.

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QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:19 PM)
how the hell do the Rays have 12 picks in the first 89?

 

Carl Crawford +2 Picks,

Rafael Soriano +2 Picks

Grant Balfour +2 Picks

Brad Hawpe +1 Pick

Joaquin Benoit +1 Pick

Randy Choate +1 Pick

Chad Qualls +1 Pick

First Round +1 Pick

Second Round +1 Pick

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= 12 Picks

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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:43 PM)
Carl Crawford +2 Picks,

Rafael Soriano +2 Picks

Grant Balfour +2 Picks

Brad Hawpe +1 Pick

Joaquin Benoit +1 Pick

Randy Choate +1 Pick

Chad Qualls +1 Pick

First Round +1 Pick

Second Round +1 Pick

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= 12 Picks

 

And they're still only 2.5 games out in that monster of a division with one of the top 3 players in the AL missing nearly 30 games.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:49 PM)
And they're still only 2.5 games out in that monster of a division with one of the top 3 players in the AL missing nearly 30 games.

 

The Rays are the model to follow in drafting, scouting, and development. Particularly in pitching. They just keep churning out solid to excellent arms. Their farm system was/is second only to the Royals and they will potentially leapfrog them after the draft.

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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:53 PM)
The Rays are the model to follow in drafting, scouting, and development. Particularly in pitching. They just keep churning out solid to excellent arms. Their farm system was/is second only to the Royals and they will potentially leapfrog them after the draft.

 

Bingo. People keep looking at all the top 3 picks they had when they were awful (Longoria, Price, Upton). But if you look beyond that, it's easy to see they know what the hell they're doing. The Braves are right there as well.

 

Edit: though they royally f***ed up in taking Beckham instead of Posey in '08. Oh my goodness that team with Buster Posey for the next 10 years or so.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:56 PM)
Bingo. People keep looking at all the top 3 picks they had when they were awful (Longoria, Price, Upton). But if you look beyond that, it's easy to see they know what the hell they're doing. The Braves are right there as well.

 

Edit: though they royally f***ed up in taking Beckham instead of Posey in '08. Oh my goodness that team with Buster Posey for the next 10 years or so.

 

Or Gordon, or Alvarez.

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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:53 PM)
The Rays are the model to follow in drafting, scouting, and development. Particularly in pitching. They just keep churning out solid to excellent arms. Their farm system was/is second only to the Royals and they will potentially leapfrog them after the draft.

 

When the Royals talent pans out, I might place them ahead of Tampa. Tampa has proven their system works.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:02 PM)
When the Royals talent pans out, I might place them ahead of Tampa. Tampa has proven their system works.

Well the tip of the iceberg is already in full view.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:02 PM)
When the Royals talent pans out, I might place them ahead of Tampa. Tampa has proven their system works.

 

You are talking developmental aspects of the organizations. I would agree Tampa is ahead of KC in that regard. Speaking strictly on the sheer amount and quality of talent in the system, KC is/was generally considered number 1.

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QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 03:42 PM)
Trying to predict which prospects succeed and which fail is like trying to pick the winning numbers for the lottery.

So..."Whether they pan out" is still undecided and is therefore the only question that really matters.

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QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:42 PM)
Trying to predict which prospects succeed and which fail is like trying to pick the winning numbers for the lottery.

 

It doesn't matter for a second where they are ranked. The Sox in 2000 had the top ranked farm team in the country... How'd that work out? The Royals have had tons of prospects in recent years, very few of them have come close to their hype.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 03:12 PM)
It doesn't matter for a second where they are ranked. The Sox in 2000 had the top ranked farm team in the country... How'd that work out? The Royals have had tons of prospects in recent years, very few of them have come close to their hype.

It still doesn't change the fact that the Royals currently have the best farm system in baseball. Will the prospects pan out or not? No one knows. For all we know the Rays current farm system will wind up busting, and the White Sox system is gonna shock everyone. Unlikely, yes. But no one can predict the success of prospects.

 

But what we do know is that the Royals current system is f***ing stacked.

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Here's Merkin on the draft.

There are plenty of players earning the White Sox attention who simply won't be around when they select at No. 47. The depth and the strength of this Draft has been labeled as college pitching, meaning the White Sox should have plenty of options to help the young core of the organization even without a pick in Round 1.

 

The scoop

"We will deal from the depth of the Draft, which looks like it's in the college pitching, and that's a good thing for us," Laumann said. "Or if we feel like there's one position player that stands out as an impact guy, we can possibly get him at 47 and feel confident about the next two or three college arms."

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I'd be down for Purke if he somehow slides to 47. Sox would obviously have to dish out some cash though (4 to 5M). Which they won't.

 

There is a shot Goodwin could be there too (drafted by Sox before, repped by Boras, kicked out of UNC and now playing for Miami Dade CC).

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