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  1. 9 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said:

    Who really cares what a poster is saying on a Twins fan site? Most of what is said on this site is biased too. The sox can compete this year, but no doubt have some question marks. The sox are in that 80-85 win category. Twins are probably a hair above at 85-90. Indians same. There will be a ton of close games and injuries, etc. that determine the outcome. 

    Let's just have fun watching the games and competitive baseball. 

    It’s not the bias. If we weren’t all biased, we wouldn’t be diehard sports fans. I get and respect that.

    It’s the gross ignorance.

    The not understanding Encarnacion’s role so you end up thinking his D matters, the writing off Dylan Cease, the total unawareness of Robert and Madrigal’s very existence. And thinking Yoán Moncada will regress while Mitch Garver won’t isn’t just bias; it’s stupidity.

    I hate the Twins more than any other team in sports, but I am actually aware of Brusdar Graterol and Alex Kiriloff, and I’m not idiotic enough to write them off.

    We’re all Sox homers here. No argument about that. But very few of us are that...dumb. That’s what I find funny.

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  2. 11 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

    For the most part it counts for Cy Young but Hernandez won it a few years ago despite a W/L record that wasn't special

     

    Who would you rather have:

    SP who's 5-10 with a 3.00 ERA

    SP who's 10-5 with a 5.00 ERA

    1998 Rick Helling (20-7 with a 4.41 ERA) or 2013 Chris Sale (11-14 with a 3.07 ERA)...

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  3. 7 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

    Does Greg have a brother who's a Twins fan? Here's a couple other gems from the same poster in the same thread:

     

     

     

    Yeah, I definitely got a @greg775 vibe reading that guy’s posts. The similarities are uncanny.

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  4. 11 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

    Twins  will most likely win the division in 2020. So they can be cocky. But from 21-24, the White Sox should not only win the division but potentially be world series contenders. Let them have their opinions, but once the core is in place and we see progression (it's coming) then we can enjoy their futility

    I tend to disagree. The Twins have some glaring weaknesses and they have several guys who are due for serious regression. They are our main competition this year, but despite winning 100 games, they’re not in the same class as the Yanks or Astros.

    And cockiness aside, the guy I quoted seems like an ignoramus in his own right.

  5. Perusing a Twins board this morning, and here they are talking about us. What a bunch of morons.

    In my honest opinion i do not think the Twins need be concerned with Chicago Or Cleveland threatening their division title aspirations. Cleveland is obviously not concerned with winning and Chicago is just Chicago. True that they have added quality players. Give them an A for effort. To me they fall short on outfield defense, infield defense and starting pitching. Even though they have Keuchel and Gonzalez, they are relying too much on Giolito to not regress(unlikely), Rodon to bounce back from Tj surgery(unlikely), Lopez to improve(highly unlikely), and Cease to break out(extremely doubtful). Also, what have they done with the bullpen? not much if anything. Their players don't hustle, take extra bases,fight hard when down, and generally i feel are just not winners. Thats their top dawgs fault. Unfortunately for them neither Encarnacion nor Mazzara are defensive wizards either. Who is gonna play 2nd base? Center? Do they even have a gold glover on the roster? Philosophically we beat them like a drum since 2008...and those White Sox were more talented and better managed. Lets worry about the next step...hear me Derek? To just win the Central is not gonna do it this time.”
     

    Extremely doubtful that Dylan Cease progresses? Highly unlikely that Lopez improves? Who’s pinning their hopes on Rodon coming back strong? Ever hear of the DH- who cares about Encarnacion’s D? Have you heard of the #3 and #40 prospects in MLB? We actually let our GG go because we have someone in the wings who is better.

    A fan of a team that got 31 homeruns from Mitch Garver is talking gleefully about regression on other teams. The 2019 Twins got more career years from otherwise mediocre players than any team I can remember.

    I can’t wait to knock these smug dicks off their pedestal. Who knows- maybe they’ll win the wild card so they can continue their hilarious postseason futility, one game at a time.

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  6. 17 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

    The talk is we are between an 80 and 87 win team at the moment. Many think we can't catch the Twins because we finished 28 games behind them past year, and that we'd have to see significant progress from our youngsters. I agree, but a some things should be factored in. 

    1. We were nearly a .500 club at the break last year.

    2. That losing streak after the break was the main reason our record tanked. We hot swept in 4 games by the Royals of all teams.

    3. We had a ton of injuries. 

    4. We had 7 players playing regularly that had no business doing so.

    5. We don't have a major weakness. Our bullpen will get much better as well.

    6. Our main guys should produce more positive results than last season. 

    7. Detroit and KC suck bad and we should fare better against Cleveland and Minny. 

     

    If we can stay relatively healthy and progress a little, I don't see why we can't win 90 games next season. The Twins were able to catch Cleveland by upgrading their roster and I think we can do the same. Enjoy the good times!

    I don't really want to make a numbers prediction, but I want to highlight points 4 and 5. This is HUGE.

    Some people have expressed disappointment that we got mid-tier free agents this offseason and not stars. First off, I'll ignore the fact that Grandal is one of the best catchers in baseball and Zack Wheeler has POTENTIAL to be a star but isn't actually one, yet. I never thought this team needed to add stars. Moncada, Gio and Timmy are already there, Jimenez is borderline and probably secures the label this year, and Robert, Madrigal, Kopech, Cease, and Vaughn are waiting in the wings. That's far more actual star power than, say, the 2005 team had.

    Our problem last year was weaknesses (which the 2005 team had almost none of). CF, RF, 2B, DH, most of our rotation, those were all enormous holes. We needed to fill them. Now we have.

    So yeah, I think this team will be very good and only bound to get better.

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  7. 15 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

    All I really want is to watch meaningful games and be engaged with the team after June.  The last half a dozen late summers or so have been completely pointless as an everyday follow outside checking the highlights and box for Moncada or TA or Gio or Eloy highlights.  Thanks to the pitching and black holes in the lineup watching the actual games stunk.

    This year I'd love to just watch a team sitting at 50-40 after the first half try and make the playoffs.  Regardless of outcome just being in the hunt and winning 85+ will be fun.

    On a seasonal level and on an individual level. I can get somewhat excited to watch our young talent even if the team is 52-70. I feel like I spent numerous days last summer whittling the hours away to a 1:10 game, anxiously counting down, planning my game snacks and buying some beer to enjoy with it, only for Dylan Covey to pitch and us be down 5-0 at the end of the first. And then, 25 minutes in, I’m wondering what the hell I ought to do for the rest of my day.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    Well in his scenario Engel comes in “cold” and strikes out.  Remember, no other teams in baseball use platoons and none certainly use pinch hitters, so we’re basically doomed with Mazara in the fold now that opposing teams have learned they can simply use a LOOGY in the 4th to win games.

    Yeah, your initial response was correct. Have fun using your pen for five innings against Jimenez, Moncada, Robert, Encarnación, Grandal, Abreu, and Anderson.

    I’ve always been a big supporter of the Mazara acquisition. But I’ve also pointed out that Texas mostly had him batting cleanup. That’s a weak lineup and I’m not a fan. For us, next year, Mazara will probably be batting eighth and that will work just fine.

  9. 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:


     

    Lol...if the opposing team wants to play for the win in the 4th inning by pulling their starter to get Mazara out I’ll happily take my chances against their bullpen for five innings with a lineup that will still have Moncada, Eloy, Grandal, Abreu, Encarnación, Anderson, Robert, & Madrigal in it.

    That’d be idiotic anyhow. What would stop us from then PHing for Mazara? Besides, only in Fantasy Analogy Land can GIDPs in the 4th inning be game changing.

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  10. 4 hours ago, smellysox said:

    One of the big problems with their argument in this article is that they are not even taking into account Robert, Madrigal joining the lineup this year. And Kopech joining the rotation. 

    And the fact that they’re just adding and subtracting wins based on WAR added and lost. So Keuchel with 2 or so WAR pushes us up to 74 wins but losing Yolmer and his 2 WAR pushes us right back to the start.

    It. Does. Not. Work. Like. That.

    Yolmer was an offensive black hole with great D. His loss does not offset the addition of Keuchel, who will replace a catastrophe like Dylan Covey and go out every fifth day and give us a solid chance to win (with a QS about 70% of the time).
     

    WAR is a fair way of comparing the overall production of individual players in all aspects of the game. But if you think you just add and subtract it to what you already have and that accurately predicts a team record, you need to step back and go watch a baseball game.

    Last year, we gave 513 starts and 2,181 PAs to 11 players who had an average OPS+ of 57. Next year, the vast majority of those PAs will be consumed by three MLBers who put up an average OPS+ of 113, a highly touted prospect who went 30-30 with a 1.000 OPS, and a first round draft pick with a .782 OPS who struck out 3% of the time.

    Fuck your WAR calculations. Unless one of our acquisitions falls off a cliff or the prospects disappoint, we are a MUCH better team and can absolutely knock off a team that got 30+ roid bombs from Mitch fucking Garver and has Devin Smeltzer, Randy Dobnak, and Lewis Thorpe slotted for the back end of the rotation.

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  11. 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    https://theathletic.com/1485331/2019/12/24/what-were-dallas-keuchel-and-james-mccann-like-as-battery-mates-at-arkansas/?source=dailyemail
    McCain and Keuchel were batterymates at Arkansas, so he’s likely not getting traded...certainly not in the first half of the season

    I don’t know why anyone wants to trade McCann. He doesn’t cost that much, we’re not cash strapped anyhow, he won’t return that much in a trade, and even if his high points last year were flukes, he’ll probably put up a mid .700s OPS as a backup catcher, giving us one of the best C tandems in MLB and allowing us to rest him or E without resorting to anything super ugly looking.

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  12. 1 hour ago, tsak31 said:

    So is anything going to happen tonight? I’m supposed to be spending time with family but can’t stop looking on the message board!

    I’d pack it in. I think Edwin will sign with us soon, but he buried his dad yesterday and it’s Christmas Eve. Nobody’s dealing with this tonight.

  13. 1 minute ago, Joshua Strong said:

    I don’t think the Sox are going to trade McCann at any point this season. Why not have a position of strength? They arguably have the best catching tandem in bigs right now, it makes no sense to trade him plus even if they sign EE, they still have some flexibility at C/DH/1B. 

    This. He’s worth more to us as a backup C than anything he’d bring in a trade, and that’s not knocking him at all. Keep him.

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  14. 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    What’s your proposed lineup against RHP if we sign Encarnación?  Go with what you’d do and not what think Ricky would do.  Here’s my ideal lineup:

    1. Anderson, SS
    2. Moncada, 3B#
    3. Encarnacion, DH
    4. Jimenez, LF
    5. Grandal, C#
    6. Abreu, 1B
    7. Robert, CF
    8. Mazara, RF*
    9. Madrigal, 2B

    I might flip-flop Robert & Anderson depending on which version of Tim we get.  And yes, I know Abreu will be hitting 3rd despite being one our worst hitters against RHP.

    Robert CF

    Moncada 3B

    Jimenez LF

    Encarnacion DH

    Grandal C

    Abreu 1B

    Anderson SS

    Mazara RF

    Madrigal 2B

    Also, pretty informal, but the Rangers’ team OPS last year was 22 points higher than ours. Mazara still got the vast majority of his ABs in the cleanup position. I don’t see how he ever hits higher than 7th for us. Pretty cool.

  15. 9 minutes ago, The Sir said:

    OK, Encarnacion is a better hitter than Castellanos, but am I wrong to want Castellanos more because he helps us hide Mazara against LHP? If we get E, then Garcia or Engel has to play RF against RHP. McCann has no real place other than backup C. If we get Nick, then against LHP, he shifts to right and McCann serves as DH. What am I missing?

    Don't anyone get me wrong. If we really get E, I'll get fucking wet, but as much as I like Mazara, he needs to be hidden from LHP.

    At the same time, whatever. Get E and let's murder the shit out of RHP.

  16. OK, Encarnacion is a better hitter than Castellanos, but am I wrong to want Castellanos more because he helps us hide Mazara against LHP? If we get E, then Garcia or Engel has to play RF against RHP. McCann has no real place other than backup C. If we get Nick, then against LHP, he shifts to right and McCann serves as DH. What am I missing?

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  17. 1 minute ago, ScooterMcGee said:

    Pretend the Sox sign EE. Come mid-may, the field probably looks like this vs righties:

    1B:Abreu

    2B:Madrigal

    3B:Moncada

    SS:TA

    LF: Eloy

    CF:Robert

    RF:Mazara

    Catcher: Grandal

    DH: EE 

    Bench:

    C Mccann (probably in mostly vs lefties and for Gio)

    C/1B/DH Collins 

    OF/IF Leury (starts in RF vs LHP)

    OF Engel

    IF Mendick (still hope Yolmer comes back as our utility IF though...)

    I mean that group really has potential to be very good offensively. I am a little concered about the corner outfield defense and hopefully Anderson has focused on upgrading his defense this offseason.

    My question is, who are you putting out there in Center and at 2B to start the season?

     

     

     

    Honestly, I’d just go with Robert and Madrigal on OD. The window is starting. Why go into the season with Engel and Mendick as starters when you could start grooming two future All Stars at the highest level? That’s spiting the now for the distant future, and 2026 success depends on other factors beyond the retention of those two anyhow. Yeah, I know they’re not actually going to do this, FWIW.

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  18. 1 hour ago, michelangelosmonkey said:

    I know we thrive on negativity on Soxtalk but I gotta say...there is not a single batter in your lineup that I don't want to watch hit.  There's not a single pitcher on your list that I would be angry about having tickets for his start.  This is about entertainment...and I love dreaming that Madrigal is going to be Rod Carew, that Robert is going to be Ken Griffey Junior, Vaughan is going to be Frank Thomas, Eloy will hit 50 home runs a year and they won't even be the best player on the field.  I love the idea that Kopech, Cease, Rodon and Giolito could create a late 90's Brave-like rotation.  My god we suffered through the 2018 tank year where Yolmer, Engel, Palka, Davidson, Navarez and Avisail were 6 of our top 9 batters by at bats and Dylan Covey, James Shields and Hector Santiago were three of our top 6 starters by IP.  But  past is prologue.  i think we are on the cusp of something amazing.    

    As a fan, this is worth so much. I'm not in Chicago much anymore, but I did visit in 2015 and got Sox tickets. John Danks was pitching. Missed out on Sale, Quintana, and Rodon, and got 2015 Danks. It was amazing having my wife and kid at that special place, and we won, but damn if that wasn't a bit of a letdown.

    Having stretches of Yolmer, Engel, Cordell, and Castillo, or some of those other disasters you mentioned...well, it was nice having innings where I could safely march off and take a nice, long shit. Guess what? We don't have that anymore!

    From a tactical baseball perspective, some of the pessimists on here are freaking out about WAR. I really don't care about that at all. Someone find me the weakness on this team. A month or two into the season, and the "easiest" stretch for an opposing pitcher will be something like McCann-Mazara-Madrigal. The "easiest" possible slate for a team coming to play three games in Chitown will probably be Gonzalez, Lopez, and Cease. No more do opposing fans and players get to dream about beating up on any combination of Sanchez, Tilson, Detwiler, Santiago, Covey and whoever. We are much more solid from top to bottom.

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  19. 24 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

    Parkman's opinion:

    With the options on the table, this was the best case scenario. 

    I didn't like Keuchel, but after doing some research, found that I underrated him. 

    Steamer has him good for 2.6 WAR and ZiPS has him at 2.7. If he can get above 3 WAR that's good. I also admit that the late start to his season last year probably made him worse than he actually was. 

    Who cares about WAR?

    19 starts last year. 12 of them quality. Only gave up more than 4 ERs twice, and only in his sole disaster outing of the year did he fail to pitch five innings. Dude will give us a decent chance to win every time he goes out.

    Dylan Covey gave us one QS in 12. We were pretty much finished in several of his starts before we even came to bat. He’s DONE.

    Ross Detwiler gave us two QS in 12. He’s DONE.

    Despaigne, Santana, and Banuelos gave us one QS in 14. There’s four QS in 38 games. And it’s not like they were just failing to reach the six inning mark to have QS; those five gave up four or more ER in 21 of their starts. They’re DONE.

    Keuchel eliminates all of them. And he’s reliable, unlike Ryu. Too many people on here think we need an ace. No- arguably, we already have one in Lucas. We now just need people to add to the potent but untested youth who will give us a chance to win and keep the uninteresting (for us fans) and disastrous (for our W-L) pitchers off the mound.

    Dallas and Gio do that just fine.

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