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  1. Everyone knows the time to judge a new front office is a few months into its first offseason before you let real results influence the true reality - how it feels. But nonetheless, as someone extremely skeptical this will work, I have to at least remark that it does feel a lot different. First - I think I can say somewhat accurately that this board would have said the worst thing Getz could have done is act like they were still just a, say, RFer away and tried to patch it up. This offseason was painful, because this upcoming season is horrifying, but at least it appears to not be putting off future pain. I'd need an ethicist to tell me if it's better to take more pain in the short term or have more time to adjust future pain. Second - The trades do feel different. I would say in general Hahn got more leeway than deserved because my strong opinion is he sought out trades that got him prospects with higher "prospect handbook" grades specifically to get him a better set of reviews. The hype around the trades continued to meet an underwhelming reality, because often these rankings are outdated, and we were buying guys starting to fall off. He was like buying a car literally after it rolled off the lot for the full sale price, but still showing the sticker on the windshield to us. Posters can check me (I encourage it), but I really can't pin trades that hahn did similar to what Getz has done this offseason. He has gone for volume of some bounce back candidates/dfa candidates, and players whose age/grades seem to have undervalued them. Or...accurately valued them. But it certainly has felt like the sox own grades on these players were what drove the acquisitions. Were they right? I have no idea, but it feels like what is happening. Third - For seemingly his entire tenure, when Hahn is facing free agent position players in his "budget", he has opted for marginally more offensive upside over competency in literally every other area. If you saw a guy that had hit 95 wRC+ over the last 3 years who was slow and horrible defensively, and one who hit 90 wRC+ over the last 3 years and was good/great defensively, Hahn took the first guy 100% of the time. Fourth - Hahn's analytics seemed to always boil down to "this one weird trick will fix all woes". It seemed like they were way, way too focused on contact rate and cutting down Ks after 2019, even if it was a guy with low walk rates or horrendous power, and it came with a bunch of players with horrible zone contact who just chased every pitch for a nubber. For pitching, K-rate became everything. Some of this made sense. When your defense is horrid, getting guys that just don't allow contact made sense. But then also loving sinker-relievers in front of horrid defense made no sense ever. Fifth - he hired from the outside, albeit from the royals exclusively (jk). And even where he did not firesale his PD staff, I have to pay attention when Keith Law says this: "They did extremely well in last summer’s trade binge, they’ve hit on a couple of recent high drafts, and we’ve seen guys develop in that system to a degree that we hadn’t seen in some time." SO - maybe there were was headway. Now, what I'm not saying is different will equal success. You can make a lot of different versions of bad. But as a concern that he was promoted from within, he certainly has some different ideas. But obviously, he needs to show he can find well-rounded, elite talent from the draft, from intl, from trades, from everywhere. Different though! Go Paul DeJong!
    16 points
  2. Sox fans are a weird bunch. Practically my whole life, people bitched about the current stadium. Now, they are planning to build a ballpark that looks like it would be one of the premier sports venues in the entire country and a large segment of Sox fans suddenly fell in love with the current park. Today on the radio, Laurence Holmes was making a huge deal that it only takes him 8 minutes to get to the Sox game now. The new park will take him 18 minutes he said. This was supposed to be damning evidence against having a beautiful new stadium. The new site is near all the major highways. It will have access to a metra, red, green, orange CTA lines. It will be accessible by water taxi. It will be walkable for a whole bunch of people who live and work nearby. And yes... it will have parking. It will be built in an up and coming area. It will have great views. It will be near a ton of bars and restaurants. It will include a super cool park/green space for people to hang out. The park will undoubtedly have better seating. It will have better bathrooms. It will have better food options. It will also end the "Will the Sox move to [insert mid-market city]?" discussions that pop up here every once in a while. It should inject some life into the organization and allow them to invest more money into the club in the future. Most importantly, it will most likely be a much more enjoyable place for fans to go for a game. I love going to New Comiskey... but come on, this is going to be so much better.
    14 points
  3. His entire Twitter timeline posted and taking 20 minutes to scroll through on my phone is obnoxious.
    13 points
  4. It’s going to be devastating if this doesn’t come to be
    12 points
  5. Is that 150 games between the 3 of them? Because I think that might be achievable.
    11 points
  6. The way I see it a new “best in class” stadium + a new “anyone but a Reinsdorf” ownership = a complete transformation for the franchise. This is such a no-brainer move for the Sox and we’re truly lucky this plot of land is even available and actually attainable for us. Get this s%*# done so Sox fans can actually dream of a promising future for the next generation of fans.
    11 points
  7. I think anyone posting here regularly has more than earned their stripes as a Sox fan. Most, if not all, of us were around for the rebuild. We've seen them be s%*#. The Sox aren't the A's, but the way they've abused this fanbase's trust is so egregious that if anyone wants to mentally check out until it's shown that Chris Getz can prove that he's more than a nepo hire, Pedro can manage a .500 ball club, TLR gets out of the way, and Jerry wants to actually invest — well, to find any fault in that would be asinine at best and disingenuous at worst.
    10 points
  8. Rick Hahn was really really really really bad at his job.
    10 points
  9. Listen a press release on a new development IS likely to do extremely elementary projections and also likely double counting of jobs that already exist, but I can’t stress enough that this massive piece of land is just sitting there unkempt and unused. We know from the recent riverfront renovations on the east branch of the river that even putting a bunch of expensive box lunch restaurants along a river can create a huge influx of visitors. The poo poohing of the affordable housing of the new housing and affordable housing units while trying to position yourself as if you are a homeless advocate is just horse s%*#. South loop has added a lot of new residences, but it really doesn’t have a lot to do. That is why there would be fewer cars on “Clark street”, (if you lived there you can walk?), and yet we can also see on the other side of Roosevelt a seemingly successful big entertainment development. And that’s just a movie theatre and a mall. Two things people don’t even do that much of. The author also is only capable of pointing to references of stadiums when the 78 press releases are about the entire development. Is the cubs buying up existing businesses and renovating a block the equivalent of this? Not really, but the Lincoln Yards project was $6 billion, mix of public financing for infra while private brought the rest. Hudson yards was $25 billion. Thats what we are talking about. This person just wants to write a “billionaires should build their own stadiums” article because that is an easy and safe place to generate clicks. But they aren’t very smart or interesting to add anything except “oh sure right!0”
    10 points
  10. This isn’t an indictment on Getz at all. If this was the quality of players they were giving up, no thanks.
    10 points
  11. I'm now fully on board with the Sox moving to this site, solely to see you cry about it when it happens.
    9 points
  12. All the things you could’ve got done. But you didn’t. Because you got high, and had to write that post.
    9 points
  13. Orioles circled back on Cease the other day apparently. No idea if it’ll be them but I’ve talked to people who still think he moves.
    9 points
  14. Calling out a toxic environment doesn’t inherently make one an asshole.
    9 points
  15. Stop trying to speak for “Sox fans.” Quite literally every other Sox fan in this thread is telling you you’re wrong so hey maybe you’re fuckin wrong.
    9 points
  16. I mean, announcing TLR as manager with A.J. Hinch's signature is pretty great
    9 points
  17. Someone should tell him, at least he had a seat at the table, when they decline.
    8 points
  18. This season is going to be a lot of learning what people look like.
    8 points
  19. Yeah, I’m sure it wasn’t the fact they had no money to spend
    8 points
  20. Honestly amazing hearing and reading some of these takes. Especially with the proposed project in it's entirety, the population density within a mile of the ball park is going to go up 2-3 times. The location is great, they're going to be in the heart of sky scrapers closeish to the lake and and on the river. Some people were crying about no roof? Why would you want a roof to block the view? It's one of the coolest parts of the proposal. I actually didn't hate CF either because it looked open to people across the way at restaurants or condos (whatever it was) and walking by in some parts it looked like. Obviously these designs more conceptual, but the entire thing is organization changing. And while I don't like Jerry as much as the next guy as an owner. This is in his wheel house, and it really could be a win for the city with the major development in that area which they've wanted to develop forever. Only reason I'm hesitant to believe anything is going to actually happen (even though it feels like this is literally the ONLY plan and they seem pretty far along honestly) is because we're Sox fans and we really can't have nice things usually.
    8 points
  21. My god. That article mentioned nothing about "struggling to hit 94." It said he's encouraged to be at 94 and meeting his goal of a mile per bullpen session. Can't you just wait and see how it plays out Instead of just feeding everything into your miserable dour Cease scenario? You are like Parkman reincarnated.
    8 points
  22. Obviously not a good thing for the White Sox, but glad the Royals were able to do this. I’m all for starts sticking with their original clubs long-term and not just immediately signing with the Yankees, Dodgers, etc. upon hitting free agency.
    8 points
  23. What does Tray hate more: Andrew Vaughn or a South Loop stadium?
    8 points
  24. If Ortiz is the centerpiece, good for Getz.
    8 points
  25. Sox upgraded one position this offseason.
    8 points
  26. 7 points
  27. I wish someone from the state would tell JR that clearly we aren’t going to be subsidizing $1.7 billion ballparks. He should understand as he doesn’t play on high end free agents.
    7 points
  28. We have more candidates for player-manager than actual qualified big league players.
    7 points
  29. Every single person with a vested interest in this (Mayor, Jerry, CPS Teacher) benefits with the magic bullets theory. None of these same people benefit if what likely happened is confirmed.
    7 points
  30. Ever been to or seen Mt. Rushmore
    7 points
  31. Since the Royals spent money and we seem to love all things Royals maybe.... ....never mind.
    7 points
  32. See this annoys the hell out of me. The reason many, including myself, liked Mena is because he actually pitched. He has been durable, he had pitched young for the league throughout his career. The problem with Mena is you can’t say “if he just continues on this trajectory with more experience he can succeed”… because his fastball isn’t quite there and his breaking stuff isn’t elite enough. He’s also 6’2”, and this is where smarter people than me should project whether his body type is athletic enough and has room to fill out more to add some power. But the thing with pitching prospects is them randomly just getting a velo increase happens. It turned Davis Martin from nothing to a feasible MLb starter. Now do that do a 22 year old who actually is comfortable with 4 pitches? Norge Vera was stuff first who never pitched and never gets outs. He could have a great year this year and be three years away because he’s pitched so little. In short your reference was bad.
    7 points
  33. The actual greatest thing that could happen would be for the Mariners to flip Santos to St. Louis, so Kenyan Middleton could watch him sleep in the bullpen every game.
    7 points
  34. Fletcher is a fine player and this likely means no more Gavin Sheets so it's a fantastic trade.
    7 points
  35. Hey, good for the Os. I’d rather hold Cease than take this horseshit offer.
    7 points
  36. Would you have taken this return for Cease? I wouldn’t, and I’m glad Getz didn’t either.
    7 points
  37. You can say whatever you want. It's still nonsense though.
    7 points
  38. People that pay $8/month for a blue checkmark
    7 points
  39. I've bought a penthouse and LSD, but I'm pretty sure not the same as what you're talking about
    7 points
  40. I'd probably do this deal from the Yankees: Dylan Cease for Roderick Arias, Chase Hampton, Brock Selvidge and Jorbit Vivas.
    6 points
  41. Nicky Lopez reaches third on a softly hit grounder because he plays the game the right way. Maldonado strikes out on a passed ball but waves Lopez home because he is a good veteran leader. Just one example.
    6 points
  42. Does anyone buy anything that ever comes out of Pedro's mouth?
    6 points
  43. The current logo is nationally known, even outside baseball. It's such a classic that I have a hard time seeing a new ownership group rebranding and drastically changing it. Maybe a few new alternate uniforms, but I don't see that classic Sox going away.
    6 points
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