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Bruce is so good at his job.

Salary relief as a team already in line to have a bottom 5 payroll in the game. What an embarrassing organization this is

Like, they didn't kill him?

If only we could figure out who was responsible for the flawed roster...

In the Sox defense, maybe no one there knows enough about baseball to give a clinic.

Bottom line is Grifol was a horrible manager of a horrible baseball team put together by a horrible GM who answers to a horrible owner.

Tommy Pham needed playing time so they could basically get nothing in return for him.

Michael Kopech in an interview after his immaculate inning quite literally told reporters he hadn't been listening to coaching. He needed to go no matter what he did after he left.

Fair point. I just think writing off Drew Thorpe is stupid. I need to take a break from this hellscape I think.

I’m glad that there are more outside hires coming. It’s a huge positive. Chris Getz didn’t hire himself. I’d personally prefer to be optimistic about this plan instead of just bitching and moaning over things I can’t control every day. Maybe that’s just me though.

Give the guy a break. We have failed him. He only asks for $1 billion so he can build a park where he can compete with KC and Det and Minn and Cle. How can he compete with them now?

Grifol did almost as much damage to the org as Hahn/Haber and boy that's hard to believe.

When does this season start wearing on old ass Jerry?

Luis Robert is going to be very confused

Also wtf was the point of having Nick Senzel???

If I was suddenly in charge I would double or triple the going salaries for top FO & scouting talent and poach from the best organizations. Take the $35M or whatever wasted on vets every year and pump it directly into the infrastructure instead. Let Corlas, Baldwin, Dickman type guys start. You never know

I mean it makes perfect sense. Like when Pedro said he "wouldn't watch the eclipse because there are more important things to be doing". Stop being a tryhard, you aren't losing any edge by spending 5 mins of your 8+ hour day at the park enjoying something.

FINALLY

I've been a Sox fan for 63 seasons now. I'm as embarrassed as I have ever been about this incompetent, dysfunctional and inept organization. Interviewing a subject is an art form, you don't go all balls out, blow the guy up and expect him to ever consent to an interview again. It's called respect and common courtesy whether the subject deserves it on not. Another word is professionalism. You're pissed I get it, you're embarrassed I get it. There's nothing anyone can do about it now but hope for the best and hope to outlive current ownership. That's the way it is. Feel free to have another beer or six. Or do what I've been doing, watching games on You Tube from good seasons (or in my case from out of my library. I've got 74 games dating back to 1981)

Nobody is forcing you to go with any narrative. Not one person. No need for you to project this bs, you are smarter than that and honestly it’s hard watching you try to soothe say people on this site because you have a personal relationship with the team. it isn’t some radical thought that this team is in a bad way and it’s absolutely ok to look at this result and continue to believe that.

Of course you find a way to complain about this move!

Not a fan of this, it feels like he didn’t get enough of an opportunity here.

Luis Robert is the perfect distillation of the laziness of the White Sox’s staff. Any other, professional organization with a guy coming up with his talent level, they would work with him on good habits like preparing for games and using information to be better. The White Sox firmly believe that this is too much work. This is where the lack of staff employed by the team matters. While he’s coming up, he isn’t coached, and when he’s healthy he has success based solely on his athletic gifts. When he gets to the big leagues, he doesn’t know the coaches names because he doesn’t want coaching and doesn’t believe in it. This has been said publicly, he doesn’t want scouting reports he just wants to do his thing, and no one in the White Sox organization was willing to correct it. Now, it has become a bad habit that he doesn’t think he needs to change, after all he’s an all star. They drop videos about how great of shape he’s in, but not about him working on recognizing pitches or studying film, because convincing him to do that and then teaching him effectively would take hard work, and the White Sox don’t do that. Then a few injuries start nagging more, he goes from 99th percentile skills to something less than that at least for a time, and his athleticism doesn’t carry him as much as he used to. Because they allowed him to get away with not wanting to learn anything, he has not become a smarter player like many guys do with experience, he’s still trying to swing as hard as he can, but it’s just less effective.

I would say stupid is making a thread about the wondrous accomplishments of Kelenic and then complaining in this thread about stupid fucking s%*#

MLB Network and other reputable sources need to start calling for Jerry Reinsdorf to sell the team

Im usually a guy who doesn't care about the outside of the sport type of things but this is just pathetic and really illustrates how awful of an organization this is. Im so embarrassed to be a fan of the White Sox.

Meaning no offense, but it’s my understanding that you report on the Sox in some capacity? Given that, I understand why you would take a more conservative approach to criticizing any aspect of the team as that can play into access to the team. The rest of us don’t have that issue. We can let loose and blow off some steam. The guy sucks. We don’t want him making decisions anymore.

I know he is doing a bad job. It's obvious to everyone things are not great. I don't need to get told in every single post about how he should have traded for these two specific guys.

Just keeps getting worse annd worse. He would be leading our team in average, hrs, rbis right now. He now has 11 HRs in his last 17 games. Not too mention he is the best clubhouse guy we had. And we traded him for a middle of the road prospect coming back from injury. How many years of control did we have?

Slide rules only. No more transistor-based devices allowed in front offices. Physical paper spreadsheets only. Want a computer? Fine. Enjoy the fucking vacuum tubes, mechanical relays, and ticker tape, you damn nerds.

All of MLB thanks the White Sox for all of the wins they giveaway.

Just because he would be the best we would have doesn't mean he is actually good.

Dumb thing to say, dumber thing to actually do. Let him have an offseason after his first ever season of "failure" as an athlete. See how he responds. Don't throw this on his plate now.

Im very interested in seeing the lineup. Is this actual change, or is it going to be the same horeshit we've seen all season. Theres no way Grady Sizemore, as a former OFer, can look at Sheets and say "Yeah, this is my RFer".

No it’s not. They dumped all the Pedro guys. I think Katz will be safe with Bannister in tow going forward. Well that’s a Jerry decision. I think Getz would’ve launched Grifol awhile ago. Do you disagree with all the prospect publications who had him as a top 50 prospect in baseball?

You give 29 other general managers the same situation and none of them would be likely to break the 62 mets record. You are fooling yourself how bad this was. They let players go like Declan Cronin ...for free. He'd be one of our best bullpen pitchers. They let Romy Gonzalez go...for free. He would be our 4th best player. And yes that's embarrassing, but they were the ones who made decisions like tendering Nicky Lopez and signing him for 4.3 million. Do you want to see what they could have gotten for 4.3 million if they were already going to give spots to veterans? https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/transactions Shoot, Jurickson Profar signed for $1 Million, and is on pace for 7 fWAR. They had a rule 5 draft, took one player who never played. No room - despite selling off pieces of our 40 man a few months later. Interesting guys are passing through waivers every day. We are starting Gavin Sheets in RF. It is pretty hard to make a 43 win roster, and my evidence is 150 years of baseball history.

On a side note, Maddog went on a 5 minute rant about Reinsdorf on his show at noon on Sirus. Among other things, he wailed on JR for hiring unqualified GMs Hahn and Getz.

I don't feel anything really. Thank you White Sox. You've killed fandoms.

Whoever is in charge of position player development in the minors desperately needs to be shitcanned. Or perhaps that person doesn't exist which would explain a lot as well.

Getz for interim. YOU s%*# in this bed, you sleep in it

Now do Getz!!!!!

As a personal favor to someone (me) who has zero beef with you, please find a different word. I work with people with various developmental disabilities, and hearing the “R” word being thrown around so flippantly as an insult is disrespectful to those extremely kind-hearted, hard-working, and loyal individuals who are just trying to make the best of a tough go of life. Thank you in advance.

This losing streak is the best thing to happen for those like myself that want more media criticism of the worst trio of all time

IDK, if you ask John Schriffen, all it takes is robot umpires and the Sox W-L record is reversed.

For Eloy his entire stint with the White Sox centered around not having one ability. Availability. And when he was available, he was usually walking wounded. For a guy who was one of the top hitting prospects in the game to go absolutely no where during his six years year in a White Sox uniform when he should have been owning the game of baseball, both with his obvious charisma, and with his hitting ability is disappointing for most fans. Coming along and trying to talk down to everyone who feels this way, and then to drag the corpse of Andrew Vaughn who was never in his league to begin with as some sort of coping mechanism really doesn't achieve much. Bottom line: Eloy Jimenez was a massive failure and one of the faces of the Sox failure, along with guys like Michael Kopech, and is going to be remembered on the south side as such.

Bold of you to assume they teach.

This is the only valid response. Close the thread.

f*** you Jerry

I’m think Sizemore should be the guy because the Sox need a Lefty, high obp, middle of the order guy with a high batting average