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As someone who watches unreasonable amounts of Sox MiLB and has seen Colson play at every level including AFL, I think this is the right move. The spot where they rushed him was from AA to Charlotte. I think playing on that first half Barons team last year for even a month or two would have been better for him, and I'm pretty convinced that he would have been up before now if he did. Championship aside, there was a group of prospects clearly developing winning ways together with no one shouldering the task of needing to be "the guy" every night. When he went to Charlotte instead, it was a team much more (forgive the pun) barren of that "next core" feeling which I think made him internalize a sense that he needed to hurry up and come be the franchise savior by himself. You're the top bat on the farm, you're bubbling up national lists, things in Chicago are miserable, they need you ASAP. Hitting in Charlotte is easy so this should basically be perfunctory, just rack up some numbers and we'll see you in September! Then you get a guy who had been breaking records for consecutive games on base swinging like he needed to hit the baseball from Charlotte into Lake Michigan to justify where he was at. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he finishes the season with an MLB slash better than his Charlotte one. Also wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't. Cags has a 14 WRC+ ~100 ABs in to his first taste of the bigs; PCA (hate him, but he's good) was slashing .188/.238/.271 coming into July last season. Would I like to see another couple weeks of great AAA production? Sure, obviously wouldn't hurt. But I think there's something to be gained from getting him up here while he's hot, getting him away from the sense that the next 1-10 stretch puts him another month away with not many months to go, with the ASB not far away if he does need a breather ten days in, and with the post-deadline freedom of a rebuilding team right on the horizon after that. If he struggles in the bigs, it's a new struggle and one that is basically expected. He'll be one of several rookies up here that can relate to that struggle, compared to on an island in Charlotte as a top prospect slumping in AAA. Even being sent down again with an MLB to do list would have a sense of progress to it (shouldn't happen really, they should have no shortage of ABs to give after the deadline). There's just less pressure for his first 100 ABs up here with the other young guys than there would be for his next 100 ABs in Charlotte in a way that I think lets him get back to himself mentally. Sorry for rambling, but I'm still high on the kid. Hope he crushes it.

I do not think this is good for him, and it’s based on a very small sample size of good ball

You might want to re read the press release. JR has ceded no power and won’t per the release for at least 5 years.

Nice call, dumb ass. I get 'em wrong plenty, but this was an all-time miss. Houser has looked really good, and not smoke and mirrors either.

Apologies for the last thread getting deleted, but some ad got squirrelly in there. Trying again here:

I mean let's be honest. They might say they want the Sox to be where players come to revive their careers, but in all honesty, right now it's the place they go when no one else wants them.

And yet it got 2 likes. Even if he got the name right it's still a ridiculously stupid post that only you had the guts to say anything about . No one can prevent injuries in human arms when there's constant stress that throwing a baseball requires and certaining not biomechanic guys. It just shows a gross ignorance of the purpose of biomechanics while somehow acting like biomechanics is a bad thing and Getz trying to modernize is a waste of time. This place is so toxic .

Lol isn’t that the definition of personal?

Same. Watching Rowand in the memorial video has me ugly crying. The Rockies taking a moment of silence had me tear up again. Dude overcame struggles to reach the majors, became a monster closer, struggled again, became sober and settled down and then had this horrific finale. The happiest memory I have of my dad is him dancing with glee at Bobby hugging AJ. Losing him hurts a lot.

Wolkow was always considered a project when the White Sox drafted him in the 7th in 2023 as a 17.5 year old. Hes still only 19.5 and I think all things considered he would be a top 40 pick in this years draft if he was eligible. I did a little write up earlier in the year expressing my optimism on him and the early returns are strong. When I was watching him, I saw a flawed player in the frame of a big league star. His legs are massive and he is incredibly athletic for a guy that is 6’7 240. He looks like Colston Loveland in a baseball uniform. What I didn’t like wasn’t just his swing and miss but also the pitches he was watching. He seemed to have issues with pitch recognition and at times looked overmatched. The goal for this year was to graduate A ball and to start 2026 in High A. To get a feel for how young he is, he has just 7Abs out of 250 against pitchers younger than him (6 ended in a hit). The season started off horribly. Wolkow was 9/68 (.132) in April with 1 homer and 23 strikeouts to 8 walks. It was certainly not a cause for panic as this guy is still young for the league and guys of his size tend to develop a bit slower. His .426 OPS left little room for optimism however. May was a slight improvement. He slashed .218/.297/.368 (.665 OPS) which was far more palatable, but his 30 strikeouts to 9 walks mirrored his poor performance in April’s. June has been another story. Wolkow is 19/56 (.339) with 4 homers and 14 strikeouts to 9 walks and has a 1.001 OPS. We’re seeing the K numbers get to where they need to be while the power and walks go up. He had a 123 wRC+ last year in A ball in 320 PAs so it’s hard to look at his 95 wRC+ in 250 PAs as a positive development. His .406 BABIP last year wasn’t going to be sustainable and quite frankly his 40.6% K-rate last year put a big damper on those numbers. The K rate is down to 26.8% this year and is 20.8% this month while having his best power month (.554 SLG) and walk rate (13.4%). Even in his excellent July last year, had a .553 SLG, 37.3% K Rate and 14.2% walk rate. Getting all 3 of those metrics in the right place was the goal this year, because success at the next level can’t rely on a .400+ BABIP. This month was his best as a pro outside of rookie ball and shows the bones of a great prospect on the cost of a lottery ticket. This is the exact player the Sox have been wanting to develop for years and I will be watching him as closely as any prospect in the system the rest of the year. You just don’t see 6’7 240 lefties come around often. I would have more concern about his pitch recognition if he was a 4 year SEC hitter that played high level high school ball in Florida or California. When Aaron Judge was his age he was a freshman in college with 2 homers in 187 ABs using a metal bat (.902 OPS) but still. This will take a lot of time and a lot of reps, but this month was a huge step in the right direction. The next challenge for him is lefties. Hes 9/44 (.205/.327.227) this year with 0 hrs and 19ks to 6 walks. In 2024 he was also 9/44 with 0 homers and in 2023 in rookie ball he was 1/10 with 0 homers. Thats starting to be a concerning sample. I think the Sox should do whatever they can during this season and off season to help him see more pitches against lefties. Simulated games, whatever you need to do. There are worse things than being a strong side platoon player, but he’s a guy that has time on his side to develop. Don’t platoon him until the bigs. Let the kid develop his approach and get reps.

I really miss Harold. Was really helpful for me and informative. I think fucking losers on this site finally chased him away. It’s a real shame if so.

What is happening to this place? When did everyone go insane? what are we even doing here?

Who is the current owner of the White Sox? The answer is Jerry Reinsdorf. Justin Ishbia isn’t even on the front office page on the team website. You are a colossal waste of time. A true imbecile

If we are talking about a mere year into the future, I am pouring millions into turning White Sox operations into the developement envy of the league. Poach the best minds in scouting, developement, data, etc. Whatever it takes. I leave FA alone for the most part until there is a homegrown foundation in place.

I did not think this death would have me this emotional. I legit cried hearing about the news then I cried again when I saw the White Sox video on him. 2005 was one of the greatest years of my life. That championship was the amazing cherry on top. RIP Bobby. Thank you for everything you gave to the game and to this city.

You expected the Sox to not be idiotic?

Great, more of this "global warming" Chinese hoax bullshit. Sullivan is trying to push the hoax even more. I just watched a Joe Rogan Experience podcast and Joe actually said we are in a global cooling pattern when you look at the big picture. We don't need a retractable roof. It's going to get cooler here based on what Joe said.

Come on. This isn't on the White Sox.

Disagree with pretty much everything in this post. How were they good at pitching overhauls previously? Show some receipts and tangible actions that suggest they were even close to league average in this area prior to Bannister and the various foundational overhauls they have implemented since Getz took over. Did you even watch the video? One of the first things that Bannister mentions is how they had to completely revamp the R&D department because everything was broken. Data itself wasn’t clean and definitions weren’t aligned upon, it wasn’t it in the cloud and easily accessible, and it wasn’t be used throughout all groups as part of the broader decision-making process. Fixing these issues is the definition of addressing low hanging fruit and helps not only hitting, but hitting & fielding as well. Lastly, saying all these foundational improvements are just PR fluff because they haven’t immediately impacted our W-L record is silly. No doubt there is a PR angle to touting one’s horn, but fixing our foundations is the single most important thing needed to right this ship in the long-run and it’s all we should really care about at the moment other than Jerry’s reign of terror ending. But if you’re actually paying attention, you can see signs of better process baring some fruit. Again, it won’t immediately change our W-L record because we are basically starting from zero, but that doesn’t mean it’s not vitally important or actually working.

I'm with you. Hard to argue about a left handed hitting OF with a patient approach and some notable thump with solid tools across the board. I take this all day at 44.

I'm happy that you like watching the worst sox teams in history back to back years but some of us dont actually enjoy that at all. Hope that helps.

You just used 889 words in a topic titled " How to Fix Shane Smith and Miguel Vargas" and your conclusion was: - Miguel Vargas: I don't know how to fix him - Shane Smith: Pitch less than he is, because he's been bad Just riveting stuff.

They're picking in a weird. It just depends on the craziness in front of them. None of these players are worth the slot values so teams will be deal hunting early. He didn't. Best player on the board though.

The lack of playing time for Quero is ridiculous.

There are worse starting pitchers in baseball than Cannon, plenty of them. This isn't a 16 team league any more.

Colson with another 3 hits tonight including a double and triple. That's 8 hits in the last 3 games including 2 HR's 2 doubles and a triple. Thank you to the posters for declaring him a bust/cooked, the anti-jinx was just what the doctor ordered!

I have held back commenting on this story, because I wanted to have all the facts before doing so. Ultimately, this appears to be a big nothing that has been blown out of proportions by all sides. The moral police immediately assumed the worst by thinking some 22 year old drunk kid was legit evil and ripping into Marte over his mom being dead despite it being unlikely he even knew of her passing. And now you have the free speech police all worked up because the kid received a lifetime ban from all Major League teams when it turned out he was only making some generic “yo mama” jokes. The amount of attention this story has gotten and all the corresponding responses are the perfect depiction of just how fucked up this country is right now. The need for many to immediately serve as judge, jury, and executioner on social media is a massive problem for a country built around due process. At the same time, this idea that people can say and do dumb s%*# under the guise of “free speech” and should just receive a slap on the wrist is just as problematic. The reality here is we have a dumb, drunk 22 year old riding a player to be cool and/or impress the girl he was with. The comments were random and not built to personally strike a nerve with Marte, but unfortunately by happenstance they did. The coaches then yelled at the fan and told him that he had gone too far given the circumstance and it sounds like the kid didn’t lay off. IMO, if that last point is true, then the kid is probably a pretty big douchebag and should be held accountable for his actions. Whether that should be lifetime bans, I don’t know and candidly I don’t care. This is a private fucking business and if they don’t want this douche around then this is their choice. I get many of us have done stupid and hurtful things in our youth, myself included, but an important part of growth is actually facing some consequences. The kid certainly shouldn’t have been doxxed, but if MLB wants to tell him to f*** off forever then hopefully he and others learn from this and think a little bit before they act in the future.

I think the best thing the kid could do now since he clearly is being outed, is come out and admit it exactly what was said “hey, this is what I said. (Insert quote) Knowing now the information about him mom, I never would have said anything like that and regret saying it with all of my heart and apologize to Ketel Marte, the dbacks, and the white Sox” to me, if he literally said nothing worse than a yo mama joke, the above would get him off a lot of peoples bad side and he could move on.

No shot this 22 year old kid knew that his mom died in a car accident 8 years ago (when he would have been 14). Hell, I didn't even know that until this happened. The big thing here is to be careful about what you say to people, I know this resulted in him being thrown out and banned but man mouthing off to the wrong person about something you don't even know how impactful it is to them, recipe for disaster. I always get on my wife when she rages in the car at another driver on the road for doing something stupid, you never know who is going to lose it and have a gun or follow you somewhere.

I would hope this guy feels a lot of remorse, and not just because he's banned from all ballparks. But, if he's yelling stuff like that in public, chances are he's behind his keyboard saying worse stuff. Go read the comment sections of just about any post of Facebook or X, and you see how terrible people are...hidden behind their computer screens or phones. I don't know if we'll ever be better, but what happened the other night should open some eyes about how words can hurt, deeply.

Maybe we shouldn't do that. Maybe we shouldn't refer to human beings as "waste products" either. It's dehumanizing in a similar vein as this loser fan's actions; it doesn't make you better than him, it makes you akin to him. Don't understand the specificity about public education and parents either...how would you even know to make this baseless assumption? Yeah, it's totally, like, his math teacher's fault from a decade ago he got drunk and made a public fool of himself.

I beg to differ. The douchebag should be forced to attend and watch every inning of every White Sox game home and away for the rest of the year.

The JR owned White Sox are a terrible organization but how can you blame the organization for what that cretin said.

Going from Renteria, for whom it seemed like players would run through a wall, to drunken baseball corpse who napped in the dugout probably throws a monkey wrench in the whole accountability and professionalism part.

He’s on an innings limit and likely finishes in Chicago.

Someone has expectations for Josh Rojas trade market?

Yea same. Imagine chasing off an insider who routinely would feed the board tidbits on draft intel, trade info, and knowledge on the inner workings of the org. Shows how shitty and petty some of the posters here are.

Greg, yep the 50s were a different era, most men wore suits and women wore dresses to Sox games. I went to 5 games in 1959 including game 2 of the World Series with my Uncle and Mom, he wore nice sport coats and she wore a dress with high heels. Most men wore fedoras, only kids wore baseball caps, fans didn’t wear team jerseys or jackets except again for kids. Funny story around 1953 on opening day I asked my Mom if she would buy me a Sox jacket at Sears, I get home after school and there’s a Cub jacket on my bed, Sox jackets had sold out so Mom bought me a Cub jacket, I was insanely mad. The atmosphere was pretty electric in the Go Go years with fans screaming GO GO every time a Sox speedster was on first especially Aparicio. When the Yankees came to town Comiskey got crazy with huge crowds, many Sox- Yankee games drew more than 50,000 and there was always a fight somewhere in the stands. No the fans didn’t complain like today, sort of unheard of, no internet, News on TV was on maybe a half hour at 6PM and another 15-30 minutes at 10 PM. Only 4 TV stations, 2-5-7 and 9, PBS came along in the early 60s on channel 11. Something different was there were no Saturday night games anywhere in MLB, the Sox drew best on Friday nights and Sundays when there was usually a double header. Fans had other things to do on Saturdays like grocery shopping and yard work as most worked Monday through Friday 9 to 5. Actually though the Sox outdrew the Cubs in the 50s and 60s I would bet the Cubs had larger crowds on Saturday afternoons than the Sox but not huge crowds, maybe 10-12 thousand at Wrigley and maybe 8,000 at a Sox game, even when the Yankees were in town, they would only draw 20,000 on a Saturday afternoon but for sure on Sunday there would be a packed house. Yes 1977 was a magical year. I'll never forget July 31 against the Royals, over 50,000 on hand and when the Sox came back and won the first game, Comiskey was so loud the place was shaking, never have I heard it so loud just like Blackhawk games at the the old Madhouse on Madison. IIRC after game 1 the Sox lead the division by 6.5 games but the Royals won game 2 and it was down hill the rest of the way, in fact IIRC the Royals swept us the next weekend in KC. KC went on to win the division with the Sox finishing 3rd at 90-72. Here’s a picture of me in that horrible Cubs jacket and cap my mother bought me in 1953 because Sears had sold out White Sox jackets and caps, I refused to look at the camera,

It’s very strange how you cast more blame at the feet of the new Sox owner before he has even officially taken over than you have at Jerry who has failed for the majority of 40+ years.

We are all waiting for one specific thing to happen. Not much else to do.

Why do you hate your kids?

Gotta figure out how to get Teel in there. Ideally you bring up Lee so one of Quero and Teel can DH. Then you get rid of Noda and play Sosa/Vargas at 1st/3rd.

Call up Lee and carry 3 catchers so Teel and Quero can play (hit) everyday at least.

July draft sucks. Wastes a lot of developement time.

This is my experience with Colson

God it would be awesome if the prosecution was a rabid Sox fan, and just asked him a ton of questions about the state of the team, why did he hire La Russa, why hasn't he signed a player to a $100 million dollar contract, etc. 😂

I know Hahn has become shorthand for blame around these parts, but to be frank what has changed since then? It's been almost two years now, and you can only point the finger at so many soon to be ex-players. Why are we still not able to call up a kid from the minors that we can trust and/or who has a grasp on fundamentals? Why do we keep having to look outside of our minors to find guys who already know how to work hard? Over these last couple of years, why has no veteran had a turn around since all of these changes took place? There is a lot of talking, fingerpointing, and PR releases, but I still see the same picture.

Schriffen symbolizes all that is wrong with this franchise and how it's being run into the ground by Jerry Reinsdorf. No, he doesn't affect on the field performance and I could live with a bad announcer if the team were on their way to winning 95 games, but he is a perfect reflection of how Uncle Jerry has run this team over the last 15-20 years.