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They need some sort of Truman show set up for tlr where he thinks he is managing but it’s a soundstage

The hiring of Tony LaRussa. Everything went to shit after he was hired.

All - with the season heading down the tubes I am taking a last ditch extremely superstitious effort to get the club on track and will be working through some upgrades to the forum software sometime next week. Intent is for it to be a one day outage but given size of this board always a risk it drags a bit longer. If it does I’ll get a back up forum up in the meantime but want to make sure I get everything upgraded given some of the slowness issues people were running into on their mobile device etc. Wanted to give you all a quick heads up - I’ll post a more updated timeline as I get closer to it.

TL;DR Fire everyone and sell the team

Rosenthal: An Open Letter to Tony La Russa This whole piece is wonderful and spot on. More in the actual article, which I assume is paywalled. Quoted a bunch of what seems relevant. https://theathletic.com/3593415/2022/09/14/rosenthal-tony-la-russa-white-sox-manager-future/

Can we stop blaming covid for poor performance? I’ve had that s%*# like 4 times already and I’m 38 years old and out of shape. Moncada had covid over two years ago, he’s fine.

Dear Tony, not a single Sox fan wants you to return. Go away

I’d give him 3 years, 16.5 million

I know a portion of this video has been posted in other threads, but I thought this was so good it needed its own. I encourage everyone to watch the entire 16 minute video. It is exactly how every invested Sox fan is feeling right now, and a great summary of all the bad decisions that were made that made this rebuild a complete failure. The White Sox, as a WHOLE, should be ashamed of themselves.

If I ever wonder what 77 year old testicle taste like, now I know who to ask.

I should preface this by saying that I obviously don't want him to die or anything, but how are we as fans supposed to react to this? I don't feel bad for him, if it's that hard on him, he should resign.

But realistically, this should be the end of the road for this group. This season is the biggest single failure in my 38 years as a White Sox fan. Everyone needs to go from KW on down and the roster also needs a major shakeup. Go give Mike Chernoff a President of Baseball Ops title and let him burn this shit to the seems.

I just want him to come and and tell the truth. "Guess what? Yall were right! We fucked up! I don't know how to spend money on players and my boss wouldn't let me choose my manager. We don't know how to keep players healthy, motivated, or accountable. We don't encourage hustling because our players will probably get hurt, even though they are PROFESSIONAL FKING ATHLETES. Go ahead. Rail on us. We deserve it. To all the White Sox fans, I know you don't care that I say this, but I'm sorry. This org needs change from top to bottom. And I will be the first to set the example. I quit."

How can anyone read that Bob article and think Tony didn’t destroy this team and also that he should ever return

Hating on a player because he doesn't conform to the prototypical white-boy baseball player from the 1950's always strikes me as absurd. People are different. People have different cultures. People have different styles, and tastes. Who gives a flying f*** if he wears a chain and tilts his hat? He's paid to hit the ball, not conform to some boring ass preconceived notion of what a baseball player should look like. Personality is a good thing.

These two posts belong together. This team has been disinterested garbage for the last 200 games with Tony running it. They have barely been .500, and have played disinterested and fundamentally garbage baseball. The jump in energy in the last week is shocking after seeing the previous year and a half. Tony LaRussa has been an unmitigated disaster for the Chicago White Sox. Literally every worst case scenario possible has happened in the last two seasons under his watch.

I wish we lived in 1988 again… the world was better without the internet and all I cared about at that time was a combination of waffles, bugs, dirt, dogs, a bike, and Saturday morning cartoons. Modern life is an insane hell relative to simpler times.

This injury was suffered on August 12. The strategy of not putting him on the IL has allowed him to play in 12 of the team's 28 games since then, with a .194 average and a .515 OPS in 38 plate appearances.

"The soreness will escalate" is also a good 2022 White Sox slogan.

This is why I’m never trading Eloy. He’s just an amazing bat when healthy.

I don’t hope for anything significantly wrong with Tony, but I’m also not going to act like I want to ever see him manage again.

Yawn….maybe say these things in May….not with 2 days left in August. We’ve watched all year and it’s been the same crap, so now your “angry”. (Insert Joe Kelly pout face)

Madrigal is better than Kwan, he just can’t stay healthy

You're giving them too much credit. They're only close because the division is terrible. In any other division they would have been cooked at the all star break. They're like 13.5 behind that Yankees and 400 behind the Astros. There isn't another division in baseball where they'd be higher than 3rd. They aren't even in wild card contention, and there are more wild cards than ever. I would also say, they don't have bad luck in close games. They don't execute well. They're bad at the little things. That leads to giving away games. It leads to not closing things out. It leads to losing. This is about the most disappointing team and season I can remember. Maybe 2007 is the only one close. They have lots of talent, but are bad at baseball. That leads to a team that is completely mediocre.

The only real hope for a lot of Sox fans is to outlive JR and hope for better ownership.

Even if the rally falls short - if they keep this alive the final month it at least gives me much more hope and optimism heading into next season (because it really does mean TLR played a pretty huge role in this fiasco). It doesn't mean that there aren't other bigger issues to fix though, cause there are.

How about those winning percentages? I guess you are going to ignore that Ricky got it done against far superior competition in both Cleveland and Minny as compared to this year, and that Tony has seen his team perform less and less each season, with as you said, a not very good team? I know you want to misdirect by including what the rest of baseball was doing two years ago, instead of what the Sox are doing now, but again that is kind of the point. A better equipped team, is doing worse each season, with worse competition under this manager. Then after he steps away, the team looks like it did before he got here. Runs scored are up, homers are up, and the team is winning.

People have been giving Lynn s%*# on this board but he is 4-1 in his last seven starts a 2.06 ERA and most importantly, 53 strikeouts and only 4 walks. He's quietly found his 2021 form and not a lot of people have noticed. If the Sox can get to the playoffs, and that is a big IF, they will be lining up Cease, Cueto, and Lynn as their first three starters. That's pretty damn good.

Has he watched any Whitesox baseball the past year and 1/2? This makes zero sense. No one wants him back, especially not the fans

He's so vain. He thinks this winning streak is about him.

You mean hiring a 77 year old guy, with health concerns, and a history of alcohol abuse, was probably a terrible idea? You don't say. People have been questioning his health and mental health since....he was fucking hired. This is just such a shocker, right? Just reinstates what a TERRIBLE FUCKING HIRE this was to begin with. I don't wish ill upon TLR, but I'm sure he will be fine. This reeks of giving a guy a respectable out, for someone who never should have been hired to begin with.

Surprised they didn't force him to sit on the bench for 7-8 days before finally letting him sit out.

Oh my goodness no. The 2006 team would win 9 out of 10 games against this team. They won 90 games. They had 4 players who hit 30+ home runs. There were 7 players on that team that hit more HR than the current team leaders have this year. (Abreu/Sheets at 14.) In the end, Buehrle and Contreras just ran out of gas after a lot of innings over 2 seasons, and the bullpen just wasn't as good as they were in 2005, especially Cotts and Politte. It was disappointing that they ended up missing the playoffs back when there was only 1 wild card, but that team was a million more times fun to watch than this year's team.

This may sound cold-hearted, but I really don't care whether he's OK or not. He agreed to take on this job at age 76 after having a second DUI. He clearly wasn't physically cut out to do this for more than a year. He's done this to himself, and made us all miserable in the process.

Royals play Detroit next so that's very possible for them.

Please turn it off until next year

Raw talent with no refinement. Bad habits allowed to persist. Lack of leadership to tell players otherwise AND hold them accountable.

Why would anyone believe in this teams core? They faded and got demolished in the playoffs last season and then couldn't even win this lousy division this season. The roster is aging, injured, and under-performing and they have an owner who is more interested in hiring his buddies or ex players than actual competent managers. There is very little to raise hope with this organization.

Guardians

The more info that comes out, the more pissed off all Sox fans should be regarding how much Tony destroyed this team. He deserves every critical thing written about him. It’s just too bad it took this long for a change to happen.

Not into accuracy or current reality either. No doubt you still call your syrup Aunt Jemima, because you may not be into "woke bs", but you are committed to offending others.

You should post like this and ditch the boring trolling. Imo

or player

Cueto be like... Where are these runs for me

I'll be the cynic and say it - this might be a PR move as much as a health move. Others have mentioned it throughout the season but this may just be laying the groundwork to give Tony an out. Not doubting he may have health issues, just that publicly having him sit out could also be a calculated move to telegraph the off-season separation.

All teams have injuries. I posted a story a few days ago about WAR injury impact. The Dodgers and (if I remember right) the Rays lead all of baseball in WAR lost due to injuries. Both those teams are still going to make the post season. Hell the Dodgers may wind up winning 110 games. Bottom line the White Sox have every opportunity to have a good minor league system, to sign high quality free agents to provide depth (instead of stiffs, has-been's and retreads) instead they take a half ass money driven approach. There's a saying in the Bible...you reap what you sow (and that includes in my opinion an incompetent medical, conditioning and training staff)