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I'm so happy for him. 🥹

@DirtySox you've been wonderful this whole thread and I hope you hit every green light for the next month.

After the recent play, is the smart move to buy instead of sell?

You have no clue.

Guys....this is a banger of a draft class.

I truly think tomorrow they have a shot at turning this into what we will look back on as one of the more special drafts in franchise history!

Via BA.

Shoutout to @DirtySox for sharing all these scouting reports/tweets and your general draft insights that a lot of us dummies don’t have. Appreciate you.

If Landon doesn’t sign to a friendly bonus they should move Jim’s office to the basement like Milton in Office Space. I’m really dating myself with these references today.

Get the f*** out of my thread.

I dunno about you guys but I think it's pretty sweet to be in first place and also have the first pick in the draft.

That's typically how draft picks work. You hope they're good in the future. Is Roch Chowalsky good? Maybe one day. Would you trade, I dunno, a 1 WAR player for Roch? He's an unknown commodity, you know, kinda risky. I don't understand this board's new love affair for Gonzalez. It smells like Tim Elko or Jake Burger, overrating the flavor of the month (I wish I looked at this board when Yermin was playing). I liked the pick when he got drafted (nobody else did) and didn't write him off immediately. But he isn't some star waiting in the wings, he's a middling player with no where to play on this team. He hasn't actually been good in MLB, his only professional success is 200 at bats at AAA. He's essentially a replacement level player who will be a good injury substitute for Konnor Griffin, and in two months when Griffin is back in the lineup, the Pirates will have traded a first rounder for a bench player who almost certainly won't challenge Brandon Lowe for starting 2B. In reality, it's a major developmental W to make Gonzalez look semi-useful and get an actual asset for him. It's wise to not lay off the gas on the rebuild by trading Gonzalez for some 5 ERA starting pitcher and continuing to acquire future assets. It's pointless to have in sit on the bench or cycle between AAA and MLB and reduce his value by eating his options. Wish him good luck,

After the mariachi performance tonight, I hear there might be a Roch concert before this one.

This is an awesome piece. Well worth the read. Jesse Rogers had inside access to the Sox discussing and essentially landing on Roch as an organization and what those conversations entailed. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49358788/2026-mlb-draft-chicago-white-sox-no-1-overall-pick-decision-roch-cholowsky-grady-emerson

i saw TRADE and fedde and vargas casually scrolling and almost fell out of my chair...

Mistake not having Seranthony throw to him.

I like how every talent evaluator said yesterday the Sox did an incredible job, but apparently not to a group of people who have never even heard of these kids until yesterday/today.

Yeah I can’t fathom why the below exact same opinions were received differently

Needed something to replace the Luke Keaschall is better than Miguel Vargas rant.

I have a fundamental understanding of the draft and the draft process. You clearly don't and just knee-jerk all over the place about everything.

It was like 5 seconds ago that teams weren't willing to trade young bats because they were so valuable, and now dumping a young bat with position flexibility, including the middle infield, for a guy who you hope will be as good as Gonzalez is today, is a slam dunk? I feel like Gonzalez could have been a piece in a deal for an SP based on the last few deadlines, so to see him go NOW for hope 3-5 years down the road is just strange.

Quick takes from this trade: Probably Roch tomorrow. Makes the draft even more fun tomorrow. I feel like we got 85 cents on the dollar. I understand why you would think to move Gonzalez, but feel like we are just a bit short considering the season he had. I wonder if this constrains us from being able to trade him for an MLB piece for the backend of our pen. It makes me think that Getz won't be a buyer at the deadline because Gonzalez was a piece you could move. Oh no, Brandon Eisert! ( just kidding) I do like the White Sox prioritizing the draft. Now, please do so with the international market.

I just don’t agree with this take. You think market value of a comp pick is a major league ready LH hitting infielder with plus plate discipline & power who brings a solid glove at multiple spots and comes with 6+ years of control. The average career WAR for a comp A pick is ~4 I believe. Jacob is on pace for ~1.5 wins as a 1B and his bat is much better than his current season-to-date results. I think as a 2B his floor is a 2 win player and ceiling is much higher than that. Just playing the odds, he will be more valuable than the comp A pick. Jacob’s history isn’t all that relevant. He reinvented his swing this offseason and was finally able to tap into his natural raw power. He came up to the majors and quickly demonstrated he wasn’t just a product of Truist Field. And he isn’t a guy strictly relying on his new found power…he was always a very disciplined hitter. He doesn’t have to hit 30 HRs to be a very valuable player.

I'm pretty disinterested in Detmers for what his cost is likely to be. One season of 100+ IP with < 4 ERA in his career, so the upside is limited. And for folks who are worried about Martin's recent fatigue signaling regression, well... Career 4.69 ERA, 4.39 on the season, 4.55 in his last 10 starts, but because he's 27 with two arb years left (and had 3 great starts in June) I've seen packages like Schultz/Hagen + Carlson + Bergolla thrown out there for him. That's an enthusiastic no from me.

I don't think you understand. He is wealthy so you are not allowed to dislike him. His wealth is proof that he is uniquely imbued with God's grace.

Not only that, there are only 9 positions on the field. We drafted something like 20 players! Where will they all play? Did these people not take math?

If you told me at the beginning of the year that this team would have 50 wins at the all star break, I would have thought that something catastrophic happened and they moved the all star game to mid August.

Yeah. It’s sports. It isn’t my job. Having former players kids also be awesome would be cool. I like when sports are cool.

Why do you guys come on here and flame like it's 1998 on alt.binaries? At least post some hot celeb nudes to make up for it.

Bro hindsight will come in 2030 for this one.

Mispronouncing the #1 overall pick's last name is HUGE cringe. Jesus f*** Manfred.

There are multiple factors here. I don't expect everyone to like it and I definitely understand the consternation. I think it's important to realize that this front office didn't draft Jacob Gonzalez and he wasn't likely part of their future plans as another LHH infielder despite the breakout. The White Sox just treated him as found money essentially. For him, they create two needed 40-man spots and add essentially $3 million to their pool. If they take a prep guy at 34 at near slot, it's another highly regarded prospect added to the system but it also increases their pool by $1 million with the overage. They went from $18.5 million to $21.5 million. It allows two extra prep swings essentially. This doesn't mean that the White Sox won't be buying. They owe it to the club to buy. This was just an opportunity to sell high on a guy that wasn't in their plans.

This is such a win win for me personally. I get to keep seeing Gonzo in PNC and the Sox hopefully turn 34 into a stud HS pitcher. I get the angst here from some from a value of picks standpoint....but most of you all s%*# on Jacob so hard the last couple years you all sound silly. Gonzo is a guy and if they are willing to trade him....they are investing in Mune and Vargas long term...and that is better than any form of Gonzalez.

This seems about normal value for a comp pick. There's always some risk when you trade a pre-arb guy. I don't think the league is all that high on Jacob, though. This may very well be a nice sell-high move. Like a lot of things, this stuff always works out if you're able to call your shots. I think Jacob looked a lot like a major leaguer but the ceiling is not super high and we all know his track record up to this season was absolutely horrible, he wasn't even viewed as a starting caliber infielder on Charlotte's squad to start the year.

I just door dashed a flaming bag of pooh...that'll teach him.

If you like reading people whine and talk trash about things they're wrong about. Which I do.

Obviously all of my opinions ruled but it’s fun to read just to again be impressed that Getz actually did the impossible thing I didn’t think he could do in this thread - he improved our player development and scouting decisions. Everyone’s opinions are understandable when you remember the learned helplessness we were in where we knew we had to get a player already good because they would only get worse on our team. no zealot like a convert - and I’ve never been more of a believer in a gm than I am or Getz right now.

Murakami Vargas Peters

Who was the total knucklehead who, early in the thread, said Sandlin should be starting today over Schultz. That guy was waaay off. Oh wait, it was me. What a goofus.

He wants to work on his split finger with some sorority girls.

Days later, I'm still shocked that anybody actually cares about Jacob Gonzalez. That being said, I am not shocked that SoxTalk posters are looking for reasons to be upset.

The hot takes are flying. Kind of insane considering how he's ranked by publications. Hope he fucking kills it. We don't even know what the entire class/pool looks like yet.

Oh no the White Sox drafted a highly regarded kid who happens to have a major league dad affiliated with the team.

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Late to the party, but hell yeah getting Roch and not overthinking it

I've mentioned it before. But having Bonemer and Roch together in AA/AAA and potentially on the same timeline will be great fun. Might see them both in 2027. Awaits Lip coming in to tell me there won't be a 2027 Season.

If the Sox trade Jacob Gonzalez for a comp pick, that's a bad trade. How isn't it? They took him 20+ picks before, spent time and money developing him, he turns a corner and becomes a prospect of meaning and you trade him to... do it all over again?