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Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
When you're 89 you're either sick or finding life fairly difficult physically or mentally . He could be sick now or just preparing for the inevitable . I just think when he's dead is when the team gets sold. The botttom line is what's important and the bottom line is his kids don't get stuck paying higher taxes . -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He is involved in the sale. He's preparing for it now. Hedoent have to physically be here for them to be sold . He can't be here once he's dead and dying is the way to maxmize or minimize I guess the inheritance taxes. It's pretty common knowledge at least according to Liptak that's been his plan so the kids don't take a big tax hit. -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I wouldn't be at all surprised if JR is sick and preparing his heirs to sell the team as quickly as possible. He's pouring his money into turning the UC are into a real estate sports complex much like Wrigleyville so his heirs can keep the Bulls and sell the Sox and profit on the Blackhawks rebuild Stripping the Sox of any long-term money insures he doesn't devalue a team already worth $2B. At this point he's not taking any significant amount of money and reinvesting it in the Sox . They are literally a lame duck franchise. Anything to do with the 78 property is subterfuge. He's just letting Getz fiddle with amounts of money insignificant enough not to do any damage. Youre getting $85M to hire, fire ,restructure who or what you want to spread out among everyone including the 26 man roster. Go crazy Getzy. The commish can't do anything about it as long as I appear to be trying. -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What crowd ? You're making up a wild scenario and how some Sox fans would react to it. Extending Crochet is just some fans preference. They know it won't happen. The only way it gets ugly around here is if the return is deemed subpar . If the return seems adequate and doesn't involve Benintendi most here will be content. If he's extended by the team he'd traded to almost right away, which is also highly speculative ,we have no idea what that extension would look like, so until we do, how could these imaginary fans lose their minds ? Both you and Balta have a few things in common. You both think Crochet was abused and hates the Sox despite nothing anywhere to support this except your own fertile imaginations. You both also think he could sign a big money deal ($150M+) right now despite having little leverage. No one here will lose their mind if an extension is in that range. Lucky for everyone here you're a reactionary not a visionary. Imaginary trades with an imaginary contract extention with imaginary fans acting in imagnary ways is you've lost you're mind level stuff. -
CHSN to be available on antenna in Chicago
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If you're handy guy, there are YouTube videos about making your own antenna. -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think you're wrong. Just because you think he's been jerked around and you think he resentful because you are doesn't mean he could get or deserves $200M at this point in his career. It's just one , not even full season of very good pitching .1/2 season of normal SP and 1/2 of limited innings starts. How many 25 years olds with 2 yrs of eligibility left with 1 year of non injury starting pitching have got a $200M contract ? In 2 more years, sure, the sky is the limit. Prove to me he's resentful about his previous treatment. Show me one interview where he expressed this. Theres plenty of video around that he's happy with his treatment and plan in 2024. So happy that he didn't want to deviate from it and risk going to another team unless he got assurances , by way of a new contract, that he would be compensated for risking his future earnings power. He doesn't hold all the cards however. He's had arm problems and still has 2 more years to pitch to show consistency in both his ability and health. A lot can go wrong or go right. Thats not even close to $200M at the present moment. No GM would give that to him right now. Check back in 2 years or when he gets an extension from the team he's traded to without pitching a single inning for them. -
Ryan Fuller Hired as Director of Hitting
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I did say only when there is no general consensus on which player to trade for or draft among players considered equally talented from the talent evaluators there can be ways to break the tie where certain opinions are given more value than others. It can be the top guy like Bannister, it can be a successful scout who has ID'd good pitchers before or an analytics guy with a good track record of doing the same thing. We're basically splitting hairs since picking young talent and developing it is more difficult in baseball than any other sport. I know heres a lot of emphasis on some coach or coaches along the way who unlock a key that makes a difference but ultimately it may come down to mental or physical maturation from the player along with various tweaks through the trial and error part of coaching . Who can say for example what made Crochet good in 2024 and why he didnt get injured again ? There's no general consensus on it. Among the Getz haters bristling and embarrassed about the loss record we hear Getz and by extension Bannister, who Getz hired,had little or nothing to do with it. It was all Crochet. Bannister has talked at length many times what their plan was to make Crochet a healthy and productive starting pitcher . Besides adding and developing grips & pitches there is a sports management team that made a plan to keep him healthy. Between all these people including Crochet's mental and physical maturation and rehab from injuries it all added up to success this season. You could argue he's a smarter ,bigger stronger version of himself which is what development is all about. Even if you think the previous regime held him back, abused him and Crochet is resentful and bitter about it as some fans are, it all led to where he is now. No one can simplify it down to one thing. Many many things happened on his path . Even if we think Crochet and his agent were wrong to demand an extension because it hurt our baseball sensibilities about being gung ho for winning a championship and team 1st BS you have to look out for yourself in this world . Once you are at your best and in a situation to better contribute to your teams success is the time to be the rah rah guy. We always hear about putting players in a position to succeed .Crochet didn't want to take any chances on being put into a position to fail. He took charge of his own destiny. However Crochet has also been very happy with the whole plan so much which was what led him to do what he did at the trade tradeline. Turns out everyone was so happy and did such a good job it bit them in the ass for a little while. Fans got pissed, they wanted shiny new toys for the Sox and Crochet spoiled the party. Many thought he tanked his value or teams wouldn't want him because he made a "me 1st" power play. Many were wrong. I just don't think it's anything to get hung up on. Go listen to Bannister talk. He's a very bright guy and in touch with modern pitching and player development. Anyone who wants to feel better about Bannister and Katz and educate themselves there are quite a few interviews with him before and after he was hired here . -
Yes this crazy talk about Getz trying to get something for 2024 instead of some imagined good return for 2028 is ridiculous. He did need players for 2024. Getz got crucified for the having the worst team in history then the same guy says he tried too hard for wins in 2024. All he was doing was turning over the roster, dumping salary and starting over. Maybe u get lucky and end up flipping Soroka and Lopez .Didn't work out that way but Schuster and Soroka served a purpose. They ate innings letting prospects develop in the minors. Every single person on this board knew 2024 and beyond was going to be a dumpster fire long before the season opened. Lol So every player in a 5 for 1 swap should be great when the 1 player was Aaron Bummer ? Why is this still a discussion ? Who cares. He was a shitty relief pitcher and they they got some usable 2024 players, a former 1st rounder and a decent prospect back . I'm sure the Braves or someone else had a 6'3 215 lb. DSL MVP who was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound they were willing to trade for Aaron fucking Bummer.
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Ryan Fuller Hired as Director of Hitting
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Does a mechanic choose the cars he works on ? Of course he can , if given a choice, prefer one over the other if he feels he does his best working on certain engines. Just look at Bannister or any coach that way. If he has a higher success rate with a certain type and you're choosng among 2 guys, who , with most things being equal and no general consensus on who to choose , you go with the guy Bannister thinks is more moldable or pliable and adaptive to his coaching style. Trying to quantify the effect of coaching is pretty difficult. A coach who works with hundreds of prospects over a length of time you will have many more failures if success is messaged by quality MLB players. Let's say you have a 1% success rate and there's some industry norm where 2 or 3 % is considered great development. Choosing the right players who are highly adaptive and respond well to and realize the path to getting better is through patience and trial and error can make all the difference .If Bannister is the head honcho of pitching in the organization he should have a say. If scouts were so good at picking pitchers they'd be pitching coaches. Your scouts should at least consider the organization pitching philosophy which Bannister is the boss of. They should know what he likes . His input is obviously the most important part of pitching development right now. -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'm torn. JR will be 89 in a few months. Yes the Sox need offensive help .Trying to figure out the next competitive window and saying a 25 year old doesn't fit into it is really weird .He'd need an extension of course but a rebuilding team starting at ground zero needs to have a strength to operate from. Right now starting pitching and with some failed starters converting to relief like Peyton Pallette or others pitching in general can be a very good strength. I don't know if JR passing away will make things better .However I'm tired of thinking Crochet will get hurt. Treat him like the asset he currently is. I want to see great things for Garrett Nolan Crochet with the Sox. There are no fast answers to even getting to .500 now but you have to start accumulating young talent and keeping it. Maybe Crochet is dead set on becoming a FA and if that's the case then sure trade him but I'd be spreading rumors and making a serious, if only in words, push to resign him and talking about the way back to respectability is through our biggest strength right now. Let teams think he'll be unavailable. When you're desperate you don't get as much. I want to see "White Sox Making a Serious Bid To Extend Crochet" rumors flying. None of this "we tried but we failed" BS that deflates the fans. Resign the dude fast and build some momentum for the 20th Anniversary of 2005. Give the fans some hope. I don't care if he's traded after he gets extended. Sox need to create some positive buzz in the fanbase and that always starts with getting or retaining good players. Pitching will keep you in games. See what Jose Iglesias wants to have a starting role. Roberts needs to not feel isolated .A veteran Cuban player who has always been a great fielder and has found ways to improve his hitting will perhaps help Robert regain his form and have a strong 1st half. At this point I'd prefer to trafe Robert over Crochet. It opens up more money and he's had just too many serious injuries. Let's face it some part of the roster is going to have to suffer and it's going to be hitting because this is going to take some time . But having one strength gives you more talent and thus more tradable assets while keeping you in more games where even a few good players popping balls over the fence with a few guys who can take walks on base will get you some wins and let the young pitchers develop in the majors while hitting develops in the minors. With Crochet there's less need to rush Schultz and Hagen Smith. Withe a great 1st half and an extension Crochet can actually increase his value. -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If the Sox thought they had a real good shot at getting Painter they might not have drafted Hagen Smith. Draft was like 2 weeks before the TDL last day. -
Dick Allen, Tommy John up for HOF Consideration
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Balta1701's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Dick Allen was King of Chicago in 1972. That iconic Sports Illustrated cover juggling baseballs with a cigarette dangling from his lips. https://metalposters.com/featured/chicago-white-sox-dick-allen-june-12-1972-sports-illustrated-cover.html?product=metal-print -
Potential Crochet Trade discussion Thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Phillies didn't want to give up Painter and Dodgers didn't want to give up Rushing. -
Ryan Fuller Hired as Director of Hitting
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I swear I know your posts when I read them without seeing who wrote it 1st. 😋 -
Haha. Bring it up again plenty will defend it. The process was right yada yada.