[Rosenthal column on Grifol...]

Makes Terry bevington look like prime Tony Larussa.  The absolute worst manager since I've followed the sox since 1991. 

[6/6 - Celebrity Battle of the Soxes - Red v. White 7:10]

Team is hot garbage.. hope they close every single game rest of year.  They blew their 2 biggest games of the year against the cubs.  Pathetic.  Hopefully the talent in the minors don't flop next year 

[6/5 Sux @ Flubs 7:05PM CT]

Man I can't stand this team .. can't even beat the cubs and knock them out of contention.  Even with a big lead they hand them the win two nights in a row.  Disgrace.

[Rooting against the Sox]

39 minutes ago, nrockway said:

It sucks to watch a losing team, you want the people responsible for its construction to face some consequences, but I can't understand the desire to want your team to lose.

There are some logical reasons to want your team to lose, ie to tank for a better pick or to force the hand on firing executives/coaches. Well, Hahn and Kenny already got fired and there's no doing better than the 10th pick. There is still some pride in sports fandom, it's an analogy for pride in the place you're from, a less chauvinistic kind of nationalism. If you're a patriotic citizen, you might not like the people in charge but you don't want your country to fail, you want it to get better.

You guys should be patriotic Sox fans. Critical of the morons in charge, objective about the performance on the field, watch the game and hope for a win. I think, in a way, you're disrespecting yourself by considering yourself a fan and wishing for losses. Give up the fandom, find a new nation if you feel that way. I'm gonna keep rooting for these unlikable losers, a brighter future is on the horizon. 

Can't really get a good pick now.  I do like some of the younger people coming up.  Last years team was the worst.  I couldn't root for anyone.  There's a decent minor league core but nothing extravagant and still need Alot more depth because most won't pan out.   Need a whole new GM to build the next 2 years and sign the right players.  Signing involves money (which they'll have) and a culture change so people actually want to play here.   We can't overpay on trash like the worst hitter in baseball (benetendi) and let MVPs get away over 10 million dollars.

[Pedro Grifol is the Best _______________.]

This guy's a chump worse than Robin Ventura and Terry bevington.  Ricky was the best manager we've had since Ozzie, Larussa was ok but too old.   Grifol is complete garbage must go end of season.

[Rooting against the Sox]

This is the first year ever I want the Sox to lose.  Same as the cubs.  If they don't clean house this winter management wise I'll be a brewers fan.

[4/23 - Sox @ Twins 6:40 - Fedde vs. P. Lopez]

This seasons a wash and hoping they loser 140 games.  Grifol, Getz , Moncada , Thames, Katz must be fired by day 1 of off-season.  This team needs to grow the next few years and needs a legit staff to do a proper rebuild

 

[20-142]

21 hours ago, greg775 said:

KC can thank Chicago for its nice record, its nice start. How many years have the Sox kickstarted KC's season? That 4-0 sweep was insanity. It showed how far the Sox are from other teams. I mean the Royals won all 4 and didn't need to sweat at all. And excited a fanbase in KC thinking the Royals are good. I expect more of the same in Chicago however if the Sox are going to win 30 games this season they might bag a few wins over hapless KC.

Kind of funny the 2019 royals (2024 White Sox) cant beat the 2024 royals.  

[20-142]

We got 72-10 with the bulls being one of the best ever ... now we will get 20-142 the worst ever.

[Fan since 1993]

Looks Moncada is done for the year.  I'm predicting 120 losses.  Hopefully they don't rush anyone up to join a losing culture.  Need a fresh start in 2025 and hope for #1 draft pick 

[Fan since 1993]

28 minutes ago, JoeC said:

90s and 2000s were a different era.

the game has passed Jerry by, but he refuses to change. He has to do it “his” way, which may have accidentally worked in the 2000s, but not today.

Yeah Alot has to do with inflated salaries which I agree with are too high but he needs to spend SMART.  Hahn did a lot of dumpster spending to fill the roster because the lack of young developing talent.  You can spend 100 million on 3 or 4 superstars and win if you spend 100 million on 22 more guys wisely through development and scouting.  I get sick seeing Moncadas salary but they refused to spend on a superstar for 5-10 million more per year.  We are paying 10 million plus to players not even on the roster this year 

[Fan since 1993]

Just now, The Mighty Mite said:

It starts at the top with the worst owner in MLB.

Yeah I agree to a point.  He did ok in 90s thru early 2000s Atleast the management was competent.   Although there was still issues.  Rock hahn was a complete clown.  Ventura/Grifol clowns.  Larussa past his prime.  If we kept that guy from the cubs and Cooper probably done  better in 2021-2023.  Gm sucked ass with bad draft picks , free agent signings , and trades.  Should have been all in on Bryce Harper.

[Fan since 1993]

Man I loved this team 1993 to about 2007.  I still really liked it 2007 to 2013.  I started getting frustrated 2013 to 2019.  Optimism in 2020.  Started to dislike strongly in 2022.  Absolutely can't stand this team anymore.  This is by far the worst team I've ever witnessed in all of baseball.   The fact that they blew it with the 2020 core and turned into an absolute embarrassment is sickening.  We even got Steve stone to call games , he's got to be embarrassed as well.  Midseason or day 1 off-season Getz , Grifol , entire coaching staff , Talent evaluators , Trainers, Moncada , Eloy all need fired.  Start over.  Build a core and rebuild for a few years.  That is all.  Maybe I'll start watching again.  This team and manager are an absolute joke.

[Burger To Marlins]

Semien 2.0.. I mean Bassit 2.0.. oh wait I mean Tatis 2.0 .. ehh it's Madrigal 2.0... you know what it's Dunning 2.0.   Sign KW and Hahn to lifetime contracts please.

[8/13 White Sox vs Brewers, 1:10 PM CT]

I knew they'd get swept to screw cubs.  Should start sports betting.  Meanwhile jake burger walk off and hitting .317 for Miami 

[None of this would happen under Ozzie]

28 minutes ago, Quin said:

Since his last playoff appearance in 2008, Ozzie has a .498 win percentage.

If we add 2007 since that's the cutoff you did for Kenny, he has a .489 win percentage.

What's KWs win % since 2007?

[Sox marketing of Vaughn lately]

32 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Len says the Sox are 0-10 when Sox pitchers strikeout 14 or more hitters, will be 0-11 without a comeback.

Four of these games were extra innings.

Wow quite the accomplishment.  Poor defense and poor hitting ftw

[Sox marketing of Vaughn lately]

I miss the Hawkisms of the Andrew Vaughns.  (Lyle Mouton Greg Norton Ross Gload)

[None of this would happen under Ozzie]

7 minutes ago, lostfan said:

Do people forget what absolute clown shoes Ozzie was at the end of his time managing? He got fired for a reason

Yes.  I don't blame him the team had potential but KW blew it.  Brett morel and lillibridge at 3b.  Adam Dunn.  Alex Rios.  Incomplete bullpen and rotation.  Built exactly like the 2022 white sox.  2022 hole at 2b RF and starting rotation.  Underperforming players.  Tony even quit too.   Adam Dunn hit .154.  A total joke.  Carlos Quentin Konerko and AJ had great years.  Quentin was a stud that year and was fun to watch until be got injured getting angry.  

[None of this would happen under Ozzie]

The idea of bringing in Sal Perez to lead the team, a lifelong rival kc royal was also a complete joke and never work.  Complete desperation.  

[None of this would happen under Ozzie]

5 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said:

It’s really bad when you line them up like that.

Madrigal was great lead off man.  2 3 4 5 hitters OBP HR would have been way up in 2022 2023 with nick in the lineup getting on base. 

[None of this would happen under Ozzie]

Agree.  Time to bring in some winners to run the time.  Not KC Royals losers.  Ozzie and Theo 2024.  Theo would be a sure KW pick considering he was a legend in Boston 20 years ago and chicago Cubs 10 years ago.  But KW and Ozzie can't co exist.  KWs time has come and he's failed this organization since 2007 with blame on Hahn since 2012.

[Breakdown of Fight]

That was a hard shot.  Ramirez wound up and clocked Anderson square in the jaw hard.  About anyone would have went down.  Ramirez ducked Andersons shot and time it perfectly.  Anderson was a sitting duck after the miss.

[Riordan: Physical altercation between TA and Grandal before AS break]

Never a fan of Grandal a flop from the start.  DFA him.  Can't catch anymore and a .180 hitter.  Need to drop Anderson and Moncada by opening day or atleast make them compete for starting job.  They might try going into contract years  but losing them probably the best way to go.

[Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture]

Need to bring back Ozzie and Dump KW and Hahn, .  New GM and coaching staff. GM from the outside with experience.  Need to do this in 2024 not 2034 when Ozzie is Larussas age and a 2nd failed rebuild.