QuickJones81 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Looking at FIP and BABIP, I thought we could see who is pitching over his head right now and should be expected to come down to earth, and vice versa. Small samples sizes for all, but BABIP is usually a good indication of whether or not someone should be expected to regress or improve. Curb Your Enthusiasm on: Kevin Vance - FIP = 1.85, BABIP = 0.071 Jake Sanchez - FIP = 1.4, BABIIP = 0.105 Tyler Barnette - FIP = 2.54, BABIP = .207 Kyle Hansen - FIP = 2.61, BABIP = 0.231 Buy Low on: Robinson Leyer - FIP = 3.37, BABIP = 0.448 Nestor Molina - FIP = 5.18, BABIP = 0.420 Brad Goldberg - FIP = 3.02, BABIP = 0.414 Scott Snodgress - FIP = 4.60, BABIP = 0.390 Braulio Ortiz - FIP = 3.84, BABIP = 0.349 Guys Getting it Done: Jefferson Olacio - FIP = 2.51, BABIP = 0.366 Cody Winiarski - FIP = 1.97, BABIP = 0.415 Bryan Blough - FIP = 1.99, BABIP = 0.381 Tyler Danish - FIP = 2.31, BABIP = 0.326 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Forgive the ignorance, but is there a general baseline for BABIP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 FIP is calculated from HR, BB and K (and HBP) and so is not really affected by fluctuations in BABIP. Using Snodgress for an example, his high BABIP is one reason why there is such a large difference between his ERA (10.50) and his FIP (4.47), but is not useful for predicting future FIP. Comparing ERA to BABIP would make more sense. Thanks for compiling the list though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickJones81 Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) On the scary side: Andrew Mitchell: ERA = 6.00, FIP = 6.99, BABIP = 0.217 Myles Jaye: ERA = 5.50, FIP = 4.66, BABIP = 0.259 Chris Beck: ERA = 5.91, FIP = 4.57, BABIP = 0.217 I have high hopes for all 3 of these guys and they are off to pretty brutal starts. Edited April 22, 2014 by QuickJones81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) On the scary side: Andrew Mitchell: ERA = 6.00, FIP = 6.99, BABIP = 0.217 Myles Jaye: ERA = 5.50, FIP = 4.66, BABIP = 0.259 Chris Beck: ERA = 5.91, FIP = 4.57, BABIP = 0.217 I have high hopes for all 3 of these guys and they are off to pretty brutal starts. You have to take all of these things with a grain of salt, especially at this point in the season. They may be on development plans where they are not throwing their best pitches in order to develop their other pitches, especially coming out of spring training. Statistics are not always an accurate measure, especially in the development process for pitchers. Excessive BB's, HP's, and WP's are red flags, but the rest can be pretty skewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 10:24 AM) .290 is considered the average. Above would be unlucky. Below would be lucky. Obviously there is more to it but that's the jist of it. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 10:58 AM) Looking at FIP and BABIP, I thought we could see who is pitching over his head right now and should be expected to come down to earth, and vice versa. Small samples sizes for all, but BABIP is usually a good indication of whether or not someone should be expected to regress or improve. Curb Your Enthusiasm on: Kevin Vance - FIP = 1.85, BABIP = 0.071 Jake Sanchez - FIP = 1.4, BABIIP = 0.105 Tyler Barnette - FIP = 2.54, BABIP = .207 Kyle Hansen - FIP = 2.61, BABIP = 0.231 Buy Low on: Robinson Leyer - FIP = 3.37, BABIP = 0.448 Nestor Molina - FIP = 5.18, BABIP = 0.420 Brad Goldberg - FIP = 3.02, BABIP = 0.414 Scott Snodgress - FIP = 4.60, BABIP = 0.390 Braulio Ortiz - FIP = 3.84, BABIP = 0.349 Guys Getting it Done: Jefferson Olacio - FIP = 2.51, BABIP = 0.366 Cody Winiarski - FIP = 1.97, BABIP = 0.415 Bryan Blough - FIP = 1.99, BABIP = 0.381 Tyler Danish - FIP = 2.31, BABIP = 0.326 Agree with all this, except the buying low on Molina. Pretty sure, that's what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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