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  1. 1 hour ago, ptatc said:

    Yes. I saw him pitch at Birmingham once.

    Not sure what that has to do with the learning at the MLB level. This isn't isolated to Kopech. All MiLB pitchers needs to learn how to pitch to MLB hitters. Just as all MiLB hitters need to learn MLB pitching. There is a learning curve going from the minors to the MLB. That's why most struggle early on. Some handle it better than others.

    I saw him at the start of 2018, pitch in Indy at AAA. He looked pretty bored on the mound. I think it would be a huge step back, keeping him in the minors more than the control of the 1yr they get back. He needs to be challenged.

  2. 18 hours ago, ptatc said:

    Because there is a learning curve in the MLB against MLB hitters. He can learn some about control but not enough. It's not about mistakes getting crushed. It more about what pitches the MiLB hitters swing at that MLB hitters dont. 

    Have you seen him pitch live in the minors?

  3. 5 hours ago, kwill said:

    I think the question becomes what does a reasonable extension look like for Moncada. 6-98 Million. Grabbing 2 more years of control, cost certainty but paying more in the beginning of the contract. This would make Moncada a free agent at 30 which would still allow him for another pay day. I can't see an agent letting him extend past 30. 

    2020-6 Million

    2021- 8 Million

    2022- 14 million

    2023- 20 Million

    2024- 25 Million

    2025- 25 Million

     

    Probably the Bregman contract as a comparison.

  4. 1 hour ago, oldsox said:

    You're right about Pratto, but I looked at the 6 guys drafted right after Burger, and the other 5 look like great prospects.  I admit I am just a Monday QB here, just second guessing the pick, but it is still a lousy pick.  I can't remember who I wanted back in June, 2017; it was probably someone taken before Burger.  Still, it was a terrible draft choice.

    Kinda smells like the Fulmer pick.

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  5. 17 minutes ago, lane said:

    There's just no spot for him. And he's a near 24 year old who topped out at Kanny two years ago. If he ever makes it to the bigs, it'll be a minor miracle. Unless it's for us- in which case, something terrible happened.

    If this is something he still wants, trade him. For his good and ours.

    It's not about that. He was suppose to be playing last year, and he never did. I don't think he is healthy, and by the time he is, his progression through the minors, he is gonna be like 26yrs old. He is probably Palka at best, if he gets healthy.

  6. 19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    The White Sox have never been the type of organization to just throw away $15 million per season and not face the consequences of said misallocation of resources.

    I don't think it was a bad deal. I just don't think Vaughn is a lock to do anything.

  7. 13 hours ago, BackDoorBreach said:

    Assuming the Sox are done with major off-season aquisitions I'd like to see grades for each individual move.

    Abreu extension: C-

    I don't hate Jose Abreu but I thought the QO was exactly what he should have got and ended with.  I'm not a fan of essentially giving him a 3 year deal which will include his age 34 and 35 seasons in the heart of contention.  With Vaughn likely up in 2021, Abreu's extension locks him in as our DH as he ages, instead of leaving some roster flexibility for a more impactful bat.

     

    I am not sure why you think Vaughn is an automatic lock to be a star? There is no downside to the Jose extension, the payroll is low enough that if Jose is not good in a year or 2, he can sit the bench.

  8. 1 minute ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

    That’s not apples to apples. You’re talking about giving some 200 ABs and a taste of big leagues and an off season to work on kinks vs calling up someone early by a month at the start of the season. How many wins less would Sox have last year if Eloy started the first month in the minors? 1,2? If that.

    It is about development, if you are rebuilding. Not holding talent back to save a buck. They did it will Robert too, he was ready at the end of the season to come up. I would argue Madrigal was as well.

  9. 12 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

    Starting them off in the minors for the first month or so does not prevent Sox from competing.

    It kinda does. Eloy was offered a contract at the end of 2018 season, and he balked, so the Sox kept him down. What would of happened to him this past season, if he would of had 100-200 ABs in 2018?

  10. 32 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

    Cease’s issues actually started in AAA, where his WHIP, BB% and BAA are all similar to his 70+ innings of work at MLB, so it is not as if he doesn’t have anything to work on at AAA either. If he throws another 50 innings and shows no progression at all, I’m fine with sending him back down to work on his game for a few months and call him back up when there is an opening.

    The Sox are not competing this year, he can figure it out at the major league level.

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