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    What The Actual F# Is Wrong With This Team?

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    3 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

    It's the best collection of talent but it's not the best team.  

    That's why I said on paper.  On paper, the 05 White Sox weren't necessarily the best team.  

    That being said, the amount of injuries this year have been catastrophic.  And I really hope people are now realizing the value of someone like Moncada.

    What The Actual F# Is Wrong With This Team?

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    9 minutes ago, FoxForce2 said:

    That's a bold statement. Competitive yes - the best, no. Even on paper, the starters and fielding are either questionable or outright weak. As for the hitting, without specifically citing players, the Sox have been a ground ball hitting machine that has underperformed in run scoring since the break last year. Until this team can start hitting with RISP they're a paper tiger.
    I mostly agree with your Keuchel take. He needs to be on a more defensive oriented team to provide best value. But even at that, his best value doesn't approach his contract number/condition.

    I think the issue right now with ground balls is actually the baseball and many teams, including the White Sox are goign to have to find ways to adjust to this.

    What The Actual F# Is Wrong With This Team?

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    This team will either go the way of the 2011 Sox or the 2011 Tigers.  Honestly, I think they go the way of the 2011 Tigers who got off to a pretty bad start and until the end of the season were mired in mediocrity.  Maybe a better example is last year's Braves.  On paper, this is the best team in the AL.  That being said games aren't played on paper.  They need to get healthy but this team is absolutely better than the Twins.  The Twins starting pitching is going to break down towards the end of the season.  There is nothing in the White Sox track record to say this.  Also a note on Dallas.  He wasn't great last night but he was good enough to win but the Sox defense let him down.  He has been better this year.  He may never find his 2015 or 2020 form again but he can be effective.  But especially with him, the defense has to do their part.  Abreu's error was completely inexcusable.  Keuchel is at his best when he has control over his pitches.  I can only imagine his mindset when he sees the Defensive trainwreck that this team has been over the past week and a half.  And it probably doesn't help him.

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    Eloy Out 6-8 Weeks

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    5 minutes ago, ron883 said:

    Where are we getting 6-8 weeks?

    If it's a grade 2 hamstring tear, it's painful but likely doesn't require surgery.  Not a medial expert but this seems about right.  If I recall, Madrigal's was grade 3.  Madrigal couldn't get up on his own.  Eloy was at least able to get up on his own before being carted.   We will almost certainly get him before the All Star break.

    Eloy Out 6-8 Weeks

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    29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

     

    So it's likely Grade 3?  If all goes well, it puts him back at the All Star break.  Madrigal's injury happened in June and would have sidelined him for the rest of the year anyways.

    Eloy Out 6-8 Weeks

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    5 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:

    F**king blow it up and start over. 

    Absolutely fucking not.  They can still win the AL central. We also don't know if Eloy is out for the year or an extended amount of time.

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