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    White Sox vs. Phillies, 6/12/07 (L)

    in 2007 Season in Review

    Posted

    QUOTE(Balance @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 09:15 AM)
    I wonder what the Vegas over/under for this game is.

     

    Will the White Sox score a run tonight? I sure don't think so.

     

     

    I've been making a KILLING playing the white sox under this season

     

    9-3-2 so far overall and I haven't lost once in June

     

    tonight I got it at 8.5. Last night's 9.5 was easy money.

    White Sox vs. Astros, 6/9/07 (L)

    in 2007 Season in Review

    Posted

    QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 9, 2007 -> 04:36 PM)
    It's almost to the point where seeing Fields play well is more important than how this team does. Fields will be with this team longer than just about anyone else in this organization.

     

     

    I root for five or six players right now: Vazquez, Danks, Jenks, Fields, Konerko and Masset when he starts.

    Ranger Rongey

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 10:51 AM)
    Why listen if it aggravates you so much? What is the point, the guys who said most of the callers are not that bright are correct. And the guys who say Rongey is not the most knowledgeable baseball guy and spins everything are also correct.

     

    Once you have those two elements of the equation figured out you realize the postgame show is what it is. Basically a waste of time.

     

    After last night I won't be listening. This dude is pretty much the biggest douchebag on radio.

    Ranger Rongey

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 11:59 PM)
    I think he's refreshing. His banter with the Sox fans after the games is usual quite in depth and enlightening, I find myself learning something new after every game it seems. It is truly great radio, I'm not sure why you dislike him so.

     

     

    because he lacks a basic sense of common courtesy and gets emotional while defending the company line

    Ranger Rongey

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    I have never heard a more irritating postgame show, and that's saying quite a lot, especially after the Dave Wills era.

     

    Tonight's highlights included him berating some guy for daring to suggest that Walker needs to be replaced by constantly barking "how is this his fault? how is this his fault? These guys already know how to hit!!!" etc. etc.

     

    He then proceeded to cut the guy off at every possible instance. I've had it with listening to the White Sox on the radio. If I ever have to hear this guy again, I'll probably just kill mysefl.

     

    This guy routinely disposes of anyone who dares to have a different opinion than whatever he feels is the standard company line d'jour.

     

    Seriously, what the f*** does this guy know about major league hitting? Anyone who has played the game has made in-career adjustments. It's not as though just scrubs need hitting instruction. Frank Thomas anyone?

     

    He also responded to "well then what is his job" with "YOU TELL ME! YOU TELL ME!"

     

    what a f***ing douchebag.

    New Direction for Organization

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    neither yet, although the idea behind this offseason's moves was absolutely baffling at the time, and the results are not surprising.

     

    hopefully kenny learns from this

     

    either sell and rebuild or keep the title contender together

     

    don't do this half-assed bulls***

     

    if we are around .500 at the ASB we are looking at a worst case scenario 2007

    The Time To Act... Unfortunately is Now.

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ May 29, 2007 -> 10:19 PM)
    You shouldn't assume Santana is automatically gone. The Twins will have a new ballpark and added revenue. With their rotation in 2008, they'll be a championship quality team and might have playoff and World Series revenue. Santana has indicated he'll offer a discount to the Twins. And, historically, the Twins have rarely lost their best player to free agency -- they ponied up a bunch of money for Puckett.

     

    Anyway, for the Sox the truth of the matter is that they are on a collision with the Royals to battle for 4th place for the next 5 years unless something unlikely happens to turn things around (e.g. fantastic deadline trades of Buehrle & Garland that bring in a bunch of talent). I'm sure that sounds overly pessimistic, but the minor league system is so utterly devoid of talent that you're looking at a 4 or 5 year wait for an impact player to be brought up from the minors because they would have to be drafted this year. The rebuilding process could be accelerated by keeping the payroll high and getting a decent free agent or 2, but I doubt the payroll stays high when attendance drops.

     

    yankees or red sox will offer santana 10/250

     

    twins won't come within 100 million of that total

     

    /end negotiations

     

    we're talking about the best pitcher in baseball, and maybe one of the very best of all time

     

    no way he stays in minneapolis, in my opinion

    A Few Thoughts

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 29, 2007 -> 10:01 PM)
    Did you just call me wimpy? Ha!

     

    I don't have faith that the 2008 and 2009 White Sox will be any good. It's looking like we'll be a fourth place team. Fifth if the Royals prospects pan out, and they've got some fantastic ones.

     

    Our minor league system is garbage. I don't think we have the will to win too many bidding wars and we'd have to to build a good team, what with our system.

     

    There's lots to dislike about this organization's future. Too much to dislike about it.

     

    I was borrowing a hawkism from the 90s, when tom paciorek was his partner...

     

    also, we could fire sale a lot of this team if the organization wakes up and smells the mocha java

    The Time To Act... Unfortunately is Now.

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(fathom @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:03 PM)
    The time to act was in the offseason. There was little done to help this big league roster...a roster that looked dead tired all during the 2nd half last year. KW's inability to get major league ready talent for Garcia really hurt. I'm not sure how much it matters though....the Tigers/Indians are much more talented than we are, and they have younger legs. If Liriano can return for the Twins next year, there's no way you can project the Sox higher than 4th place for the next few seasons.

     

     

    this post is right on, except that the twins lose santana after next season (?). Also, there's no guarantee the white sox will not drastically change the team in this offseason

     

    Also, for those who wanted the team to "compete" year in and year out and be "in position to win" at all times....welcome to allstar break hell where you never quite know if your team is good enough or bad enough to do anything whatsoever. Welcome to being the Houston f***ing Astros.

     

    bring back the "where would he play" sigs, stat

     

    also, how anyone thought this team was much better than 83-87 wins before the season started is still beyond me

     

    bringing back podsednik, signing erstad and getting no ML talent for garcia was the death knell

    A Few Thoughts

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 29, 2007 -> 09:44 PM)
    C) I'm happy that the team's marketing is so good. I love our commercials, ads, billboards, etc. etc. They're good. I really think we're going to need that to keep good attendance in the coming years because the product on the field sure isn't going to attract people long-term.

     

    I love it when you generalize, wimpy, especially over several years in a way that makes no sense

     

    the 2008 and 2009 white sox will not necessarily look anything like this team whatsoever.

    June Schedule

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(greppson24ottondo @ May 25, 2007 -> 04:34 AM)
    without looking at any statistics from a year ago, it seemed like we played down to our competition. i don't always know that playing weaker teams plays to the advantage of the sox

     

    Some rough, fly by the seat of my pants math seems to indicate we were 38-25 last year against sub-.500 teams, a .603 winning percentage

    They're back!

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by Hideaway Lights

    As I mentioned on page 1 of the game thread, the White Sox SUCK at sweeping teams.

     

    Now 6-13 in their last 19 opportunities to sweep, 0 for their last 5 overall, 0-3 this season.

     

    Something about Ozzie and day game lineups on getaway day (and not a very good/deep bench right now) probably contributes greatly to this (I know it was a night game last night).

    masset start

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    I think if Masset gets another spot start and performs well, he and Danks represent the final two nails in the Buehrle coffin...

     

    Unfortunately, since we'll hover around .500 for most of the season, we probably won't trade him and get value.

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