DukeNukeEm

Now that Illinois has banned AIDS there should be no more AIDS. Whew.

And since the NFA of 1934 our Second Amendment rights have been slowly eroded, the only time we've seen a meaningful expansion of them is when the sunset provision from the 1994 ban kicked in.

Gay sex is risky because you could get AIDS. IMO the government should ban gay sex, or at least force people to wear condoms.

The gap of the federal governments power in the Articles of Confederation and Constitution was plenty to ensure the government didn't collapse on itself. We've of course kept going in the same direction since then.

Yea, they should slowly eat themselves to death to make sure they can be a burden on everyone else.

The SCOTUS has ruled that the welfare clause doesn't really grant the federal government any power. Obviously hasn't stopped the other two branches from going hog-wild with it.

Uh its a founding document for a democratic republic written in an era of Kings and Empire. They had to write down how to set it up.

I do not care at all about that. Seriously, I wear a seatbelt because I'm not stupid... if stupid people want to not wear them then they can go off and get themselves killed. The statistics might not look as good, but the reality behind them is more-or-less unchanged. Were getting off topic btw.

However seatbelt laws did go from being a mere request to a finable offense.

Honestly, I'm mostly against them. I think we've gone too far in one direction with regulations without stepping back and realizing their cost. I think the attitude of witnessing something horrible happen then passing a bunch of meaningless laws to make us feel better has had an overall negative impact on our country.

I dont know if you've ever bothered to read the Bill of Rights, all of it is laws aimed not at the people but at the government.

If that's the attitude were going to have might as well ban half the food we eat, any car with over 75 horsepower, crosswalks, building homes on the Gulf Coast...

Accidents happen, were just going to have to learn to deal with that as a country. Not just with guns but with everything. Planes can crash, boats can sink, catwalks can fall... just because someone makes a mistake at a range doesn't mean they meant to hurt anyone. As for otherwise law abiding people being caught up in a ragefit and shooting people at random, that's really rare. I dont think the 100 or so people killed every year in those situations is worth tearing up the Constitution and abandoning a core principle of this country. I'm just laying it out there, not going any further with it.

44% of whites own guns 27% of blacks own guns http://www.statisticbrain.com/gun-ownershi...s-demographics/ That aint it.

Response to Balta's gun death by region graph.

I'm not like you, I dont demand action from the government for every problem. If citizens feel more secure with a firearm then they should be free to have one and take responsibility for learning how to properly use it in a self-defense situation. If they dont, they can risk becoming a victim.

But gun controls dont work! People get thrown in jail all the time for having guns on them but still the murder problem persists. Even with enforcement its impossible to keep guns out of criminals hands. If you cannot enforce a ban in a city of 3 million with a police department with division-strength manpower how are we supposed to keep 300 million people from breaking gun laws throughout the country?

Stupid image didn't work. I know I was b****ing about race being brought into this earlier, but blacks die from guns at 5 times the rate of whites.

f*** it, let's just say it because it needs to be said (from your same source):

Try jumping through the necessary hoops with the CPD to get on their database. Better yet, trying getting a CC in IL (last state in the USA where you cannot). Chicago, even after the courts shot down some of the laws, is still has by far the nation's toughest gun laws. This line of though will graduate from "City bans aren't enough, we need state bans!", "State bans aren't enough now, we need a nationwide ban!", "The nationwide ban isn't working, we need a global ban!", "The global ban isn't working!! We need to ban guns on Mars and the Moon!"... forever and ever and even as nothing gets solved we'll keep thinking legislation will fix all of our problems. Face it, Chicago has the nation's toughest gun laws and also the nation's most homicides. Which proves that (1) Nobody gives a f*** if you ban guns, except law abiding citizens (2) Fewer guns do not make people safer. I'm sure you're going to run and grab your statistics about Europe, but I'm taking a glaring example in THIS country where Americans kill other Americans on average more than once a day.

Sure, then every city in the country can be just like Chicago with 500+ homicides a year (got over 800 more than a couple times during the AWB even!) and your dream will be complete.

Ban those too then, right?

Honestly, I'm not going to get into this talking about what weapons are suitable for home defense when I'm dealing with people who use words like "clips" and "assault rifles" over, and over, and over, and over.

Earlier in the thread you were complaining about how deadly guns are, now you're backtracking? I dont get it. What happened to 5.56 rounds being the bringers of doom to anything they touch?

Anything the slows down the government's ability to make laws is a good thing. Getting rid of the Filibuster would be disastrous.