Jimbo's Drinker

Uconn should kill IU, Killingworth is no longer unknown, he has been contained. I see UCONN wining by 10+, because Armstrong, Boone will destroy IU's lack of big men.

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 04:56 PM) Which makes Matt Doherty the best coach UNC has had in the last decade. i like this guy, watchtower rocks.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 04:38 PM) I disagree. I watched the KU Bucknell game as Wisconsin would play them if the Badgers won, and Self just got manhandled as a coach. I also watched the Illini under Self against Wisconsin, and Wisconsin generally out coached and outplayed him. Then when Weber took over it all changed, instead of being a team that played self-centered (haha edit no pun intended) basketball, they became a team who played defense. That is why Illinois would still make the NCAA tournament, because they have a different mindsight. When you look at the Wisconsin program the last few years, its not filled with dynamite recruits, or all everything players, its filled with team players. People who understand that in a system, 5 average players can be world beaters. I guess I just can not say enough about how good of a coach Weber is. He is the first coach I have seen take it to Bo Ryan. Its not all about recruiting, its only about recruiting when it gets down to those final 8 teams and eventually a team like UNC just can out talent a team like Wisconsin. As for last year, I do not think the Illini are a #1 seed with Self. I just do not think he is capable of consistently beating well coached teams. You really do not understand this do you. KU was in the final four 2 of the last 4 years. They ran a run and gun system that feature s the likes of Drew Gooden, Kirk Hinrich, Drew Gooden, Aaron Miles, Keith Langford, Nick Collison. They are a fast paced team that focused on pressure defense creating fast breaks for their speedy team. Roy Williams recruited players who best fit this run and gun system. Roy leaves for NC, and Self brings in a whole new system. Self runs the High-LO offense, which features post passing and a slow down half court game. This system only works when you have players who can hit penetrate, pass out and hit the open 3 or work it into the post. The players that were left for Self were not ready for this system. Langford, Miles, Lee and Giddens could not shoot from the outside. Also, they did not have any post prescence, and Simien was way too undersized to run the high lo. I am not even going to discuss Moody. It took KU fans a long time to realize this, because we were spoiled for so long with the run and gun. Weber runs a very intelligent motion offense which needs 3 pointers and fast paced passing. Dee Brown, Deron Williams, Head and Augustine were perfect players in the system, and the recovery time to the new system was fast. I do not believe that Coach Self had a chance to install his recruits into his "system" at Illinois, he left too early. Just this season, he has brought back a run and gun system, which emphasizes passing from your BIGS. Also, the need for amazing perimeter defense and open shooting. This team is gelling the right way now, it just took a while to get the system and rotation in check. Russell Robinson and Mario Chalmers are probably the most dangerous young backcourt in th nation. Julian Wright is the quintessential 4 in this system. He is a tremendous passer and is much faster than his defenders. also, Kaun and Jackson are really getting good position, due to rush and Chalmers's improved driving ability. Ten years from now, Kansas will succeed more than Illinois. We have not seen that much talent from WEber's recruits, and he is not known as a wonderful recruiter. Self is the best recrutier in the nation, and he can continue to install his system, he can continue to pick fro mthe nation's best. 06- Sherron Collins #2 point guard, Darrel Arthur or Davon Jefferson, both topo 10 Small Forwards 07- Cole Aldrich #1 Center and Travis Relaford #2 SF/SG I think both coaches will do very well with their respected school, it bothers me when a "fan" does not understand the substance of the various situation.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 12:14 PM) Remember when Kansas lost to Bucknell last year? That was sweet. As long as Self is there, i'm not too worried about Kansas doing anything in the tournament. You'll have to be real lucky to win 2 games. Dumb

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:55 AM) Not quite sure what that means, but ok. If you think KU is any better than I am saying, I question your sanity. Question away

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:49 AM) Those people hadn't looked at your schedule. And your capable of winning an NCAA Tournament game.....but not 2 IMO. No way KU could beat a 2 or 3 seed (or heck, even a 1) on a neutral floor. ESPN is calling, they would love you to replace I got stung by a bumble in my mouth Mike Patrick.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:44 AM) I don't think OU or Colorado are any good either, but with their records right now I'll give them a chance I suppose. The only 2 teams I consider capable of winning an NCAA tournament game in the Big 12 are Kansas and Texas. Not bad considering most had us in the NIT 2 weeks ago.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:42 AM) It's not a coincidence that his much improved play has come in the league. or the fact he was suspended for the first 8 games of the year...man you are real easy.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:40 AM) Rush can stay in school all he wants, but his NBA stock isn't going to get much higher....a draft class this pathetic doesn't come around very often. Also, I know KU has gotten a lot better, but I still want to see them beat somebody, and I still think they suck inside once you get past Kaun. You are not watching are you.. Darnell Jackson is averaging close to a double double now.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:39 AM) The key to getting an NCAA Big 12 berth is that first round Big 12 tourney bye. It means you are a top 4 team in teh conference, and the conference champion has always come from this group.... Big 12 All Texas 6-1 18-3 Colorado 5-2 15-3 Oklahoma 5-2 14-4 Kansas 5-2 14-6 ---------------- Nebraska 4-3 14-6 Kansas State 3-4 12-6 Iowa State 3-4 13-7 Texas Tech 3-4 11-10 Texas A&M 3-5 13-6 Missouri 3-5 10-9 Oklahoma State 2-5 12-9 Baylor 1-6 1-6 How crappy is this league? Nebraksa is fifth and Kansas State, Iowa State and Texas Tech are all tied for sixth. KU could really lock down the 2 spot with a win this weekend. that would put tie breaker over ou and colorado.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:24 AM) So, to anyone that has a grasp on basketball recruiting.....or anyone from Minnesota....do I have reason to be excited about Cory Johnson in the ISU frontcourt next year. A starting lineup of Blalock.Stinson.Clark+Johnson/Hubalek/Taggart/Gray/Marsden, not to mention Carr, Degand, Westbrook and Stinnett off the bench would mean a possible 12 man rotation. Holy crap. you don't want a 12 man rotation.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:31 AM) I have nothing against KU or Self, Illinois got a much better coach out of that whole thing. My issue is KU has only beaten 1 team this season that can be considered to be anything resembling good (at Colorado) and that they beat crap outside the Big 12, and are beating more crap in it. They have talent, but they are going to get a seed where they have a tough 1st round game, and then will be playing a top 2 or 3 seed in the 2nd round if they can survive that. Not a good formula for a serious push in March. It took Self until about 2 weeks ago to figure out which freshman or sophmore to play where. I do no mind the early losses, ill take wins in February over wins in December. ....While the crowd was dreaming in chanting "three more years!" there have been encouraging whispers lately on the Rush front. Word is his brother Kareem of the Charlotte Bobcats has cautioned him not to rush into his NBA career. Another thing going in KU's favor is that the family doesn't need financial assistance from him because of Kareem's pro paychecks.

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 11:16 AM) long time reader, first time poster to this thread. Great hoops talk in here, I'm kinda pissed that I missed out on the early season discussions, but Febuary is here, seperating the contenders and pretenders. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK. Scared, be very scared of this maturing team come March. Allright another KU fan, i love the pic of JUJU in your avatar. Don't mind the other posters, they are KU haters, mostly due to Self fleeing their school. I would be the same way, and am with roy boy. I am more excited about the OU game then I am the super bowl. A win and we are a ranked team baby.

Pittsnogle's wife please go to the hospital..yo uare expecting tomorrow.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 05:28 PM) must be an older poll then. http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/...r/rankings?id=5 meet the new jayhawks. Jake Sharp was named EA Sports all american and is the fastest white dude i have ever seen My Webpage

Kansas should win the Big 12 North next year, only to lose by 100+ to Texas.

Kansas got a top 40 class. They are ranked 38 by Rivals, and 36 by ESPN. Also, they got the first 4 star recruit, probably since Gale Sayers.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:02 AM) About them blowing balls? You're even stranger about the Jayhawks. not strange, just disillusional haha

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 10:55 AM) If Missouri cannot beat teams like Davidson and Iowa State, they will not beat Texas. You are so weird about your beloved clones.

Big Day of college Bball tonight. Lets hope mizzou beats texas. Good win illini fans, Wisconsin is boooooring to watch.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 03:21 PM) OK...enough Kansas athletics....apparently they'll make people forget about Texas' athletic domination in just a few years. Just a few years is so far away.... Let's go Badgers, its time for a nice board meltdown.

Hey buddy ill take the star happy rivals. lol

I think KU has a top 30 recruting class, first time in a long time. they have been to a bowl game twice in 3 years. They had a top 10 defense last year, and are adding a bunch of top recruits from texas. by the way badger dude, dave doeren is now your head recrutier, he came from KU, he is goign to make Wiscy that much better. he got some great finds including Charlse Gordon, who could be first round pick.

Actually KU has a very very good football program they are building. They outrecruited Kstate and Missouri.

Ok in the recent 3 years, some very high recruited players are going to Duke, Illinois from the Chicagoland area..geez. While the crowd was dreaming in chanting "three more years!" there have been encouraging whispers lately on the Rush front. Word is his brother Kareem of the Charlotte Bobcats has cautioned him not to rush into his NBA career. Another thing going in KU's favor is that the family doesn't need financial assistance from him because of Kareem's pro paychecks.