tjp1684
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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:
And at least close to average fielding...not sure what his defensive fWAR or other metrics say.
To me, that's got to be more valuable than someone like Cavan Biggio who has been struggling for the last 2-3 seasons on offense (ofc, could say same about Paul).
He would have a heck of a lot more RBIs if we would get runners on base for all of his XBHs. 50% of his hits are XBHs. As long as he stays at .230-.240 or better, a contender who loses a middle IF is going to want him.
I like having him on the Sox since he is an ISU alum, but no idea if he would re-sign here next year.
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Took the kids to Cards-Rockies last night to see a different ballpark. They asked the score of the Sox game a few times, and I explained how it kept growing in favor of the Red Sox.
We talked about how it may not be worth the $1-2 we would pay for tickets and the fees from whatever seller. It was only halfway joking that the may be Sox letting people in for free later this summer hoping for the parking and concession revenue.
For what we spent coming here ($32 for 4 tickets, $16 in fees, and $80 in concessions), the concessions was the big moneymaker. There is no way we would spend that going to likely see a horrible game like this one.
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Stake a 5-1lead; give up a pair of 2-run HRs to tie it. Yeah, isn’t that kind of expected?
Doesn’t help with RISP and an 0-27 catcher swinging at ball 4. No guarantee we’d score, but it would be a much better opportunity with bases loaded and one of our higher-producing hitters up. There is zero reason someone already at -1.4 WAR should be playing as much as he can.
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Swings at ball 4 to ground out and move to 0-for-28…sigh…he’s hitting under 0.08 with about 90 ABs. That’s atrocious even if trying to say, “Anything he can do with a bat is a plus.”
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On 6/2/2024 at 8:13 AM, Chicago White Sox said:
The Sox currently sit at -0.4 fWAR on the season. Chris Getz has built a team below replacement level. I honestly think Jeremy Haber’s laptop with some ChatGPT could have built a more competent roster.
I don’t disagree that people on this board could put together a better roster or coach better on the field. In fact, I would prefer that over Grifol. However, doesn’t a good chunk of what’s happening lay at the feet of JR not giving the resources to do what is needed? We also spent on guys who don’t add much and block AAA talent from getting exposure. Unless that is somehow on purpose. If Getz wasn’t given the green light to add enough MLB-level talent, there is no way we could compete.
This team would probably perform better if we replaced some of our starters with bench guys on other teams.
I was happy when we signed Pham because it meant we were getting someone who could noticeably contribute. Paul DeJong was a decent signing for the cost if he could hit above .230 because he gets a good amount of XBHs. Right now he’s batting .231 with 18 XBHs out of 39 hits. It’s just those 18 XBHs have netted just 20 RBI - we don’t have many guys who get on base and most of his HRs have been solo shots.
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It seems like as an owner you have to have money set aside to eat a contract and move on. Teams that sign a bad contract and then use it as an excuse to spend nothing more to compete won’t succeed. Perhaps they’ll put in an amnesty provision once owners like JR are out. Players will like it because it will give more money to more players.
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42 minutes ago, greg775 said:
Not to be a contrarian, but if the goal is to trade anybody with an MLB pulse at the deadline for prospects who are not near ready, won't next year's team on paper be just as miserable or worse than this year's squad?
I mean if they trade any pitcher who is meh or better and Eloy (and Moncada) if Eloy keeps hitting, won't next year's team draw even fewer fans and interest than this year's? Oh well as you all know I don't value anybody on our current roster except Crochet, Clevinger, Kopech, Eloy (maybe), Robert and Pham and Mendick. Getting rid of all of them will leave the Sox mired in this disgusting swamp they are in now.
I would agree that it means we would not compete in 2025. I can’t see that being until 26 or 27 where we try to do something. I have no faith in JR investing in key FAs next year though to complement hopefully some young talent panning out. Seems to me we go with not-the-lowest payroll but then work to pare it down with trading away guys we signed and replacing them with guys making the minimum or just above-minimum.
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2 minutes ago, fathom said:
They all suck….outside of Wilson and Sheets, is there a single player on this roster who isn’t massively underachieving?
Dejong. He’s hitting .256 with 3 HRs and 4 2Bs. Sadly, people aren’t getting on when he’s notching XBHs. He isn’t lighting the world on fire, but he was a .226 hitter last year with 14 HR.
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2 minutes ago, Texsox said:
All s%*# they should have learned in little league. If we know the difference, does it really take a daily meeting to tell MLB players? How fucking stupid are these guys if they can't remember fundamentals from their T Ball days?
I'm blaming shitty players. Most of these guys were all tossed aside by better teams. Was it everyone's poor managing or they just have little talent or over the hill?
Or maybe you're right, Getz put together a major league competitive roster and it's the manager's fault.
Can it be “all of the above?” A manager who shouldn’t be leading this team. A front office that put together a poor, cheap, underperforming roster. Players who realize this is a bad team with some just cashing paychecks. An ultimately an owner who needs to sell the team.
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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:
Three run Mendick bomb?
Feels fated...
Normally I would say this would be the time where we would clear the bases and then fall 7-3. Maybe he hits another single or draws a walk and keeps this going.
Sadly, the odds of us winning this game are like 0.001%.
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9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:
If you can manage the 40 man to get him here, there's literally nothing to lose, but it is worth mentioning that he screams 4A splits.
AAA career 282/.366/.456/.822
MLB career .242/.298/.354/.652
Sadly, that MLB line would be an improvement to our offense. At .242, he would be 5th on the team.
Benintendi is only seeing ABs because of his massive contract. Vaughn may not be signed to another contract unless he can bolster his hitting. He’s sitting at 50 points under the Mendoza line. Either of these guys could make an adjustment and hit a hot streak, but they’re lucky we’re so bad that they can try to hit their way out of it.
4 of our top 5 yesterday we’re hitting .170 or less. Let that sink in. Our 1, 2, 4, and 5 hitters were hitting between .153 and .170 with a combined 1 HR and 8 RBIs.
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We’re averaging 2 runs a game, and even 30 points under last year, Pham would be one of the top hitters on this team. Grossman is at least getting on via walking. If he can walk at a decent clip, it at least gives us a chance to have someone on when our guys smack a double. So we’ll have to figure out who fits where best if we’re “trying to compete.”
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Perhaps it’s time to beef up our rotation of plumbing sponsors. We could find 7, and they could each sponsor a flush of the week.
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2 hours ago, Snopek said:
I’m a baseball fan in general so I’m still gonna watch and follow (along with watching other teams).
But also, I’m invested in seeing how bad this can get. I stopped reacting to losses some time early last year, so now I’m just kicking back and watching how things unfold.
I watch the games if my kids want to or for background noise. They now ask questions like: “Why don’t the Sox spend money?” Or “Will they score any runs when we go?”
They asked why we are so bad, and I was brutally honest with them.
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1 hour ago, zisk said:
In a month or so, you can use the 30$ to buy 4 box seats behind the dugout to a friday night game on stub hub. Of course then you might feel
obligated to attend.
As long as that $30 can also buy parking or an ice cream, we’re in. I just won’t spend $80-100 to get there and park to watch us lose 7-1 or 8-2 and see ~17-20 guys who won’t be on the roster in 2 years. We can watch on TV until we’re getting blown out, then shoot hoops or practice baseball outside.
I can also drive 30 minutes, see MiLB for 10-15% of the cost, and it is more likely to be a competitive game.
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38 minutes ago, Panerista said:
Won't happen, but you know Jerry isn't going to move the team.
This ends when Jerry dies. Not one second before.
Is there any benefit to him selling the Sox or his share of the Sox now? I remember in the past him wanting to keep the Bulls in the family but sell the Sox. I also wonder how the ownership agreement works with all the Sox partners if JR isn’t the managing partner. I would guess there would be no shortage of potential owners who would buy the team and be willing to spend more.
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8 minutes ago, nrockway said:
Totally agree, well said. Side note, I was trying to avoid the score so I could watch the replay (so why come to a white Sox forum? A mystery) but now I know I don’t have to subject myself to watching this team, you’ve saved my Friday evening!
Normally I would say, “Oh crap! Sorry for ruining that.” However, you might find more excitement pulling weeds or cleaning out a fridge.
My son put on the Sox jersey he got for his birthday and wanted to watch a few innings before bed. He looked at the score and said, “The Sox aren’t good at scoring runs, but the teams we play are.” Someone asked why I got the jersey blank. I said it was like $30 cheaper, and I wasn’t confident any of the actual options we could get would be on the team for the entire year or into the future.
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23 minutes ago, nrockway said:
I think this is the reality though and sort of what I'm judging Pedro on...this is a loser team (through no fault of his own) and we really do need to claw for every win (are we winning right now? I'm waiting to watch the replay). How well can Pedro hold onto leads with his bullpen decisions? Kopech helps because he can (and should) go two innings at a time without sacrificing stuff. Frankly, I don't see why he can't close out leads after the 6th inning two or three times a week, he's a starting pitcher and presumably prepared for the season like a starting pitcher. I guess baseball teams don't do this anymore, but why can't Kopech throw 90 to 100 innings out of the bullpen?
I'm skeptical about Pedro's lineup/bullpen decisions because they seem formulaic and like a formula that the MLB moved past a long time ago but I can appreciate where his head is at, that he has the power to decide outcomes of certain games if he makes good managerial decisions.
I wonder if they’re being told not to over-use Kopech because he 1.) could be traded or 2.) is a likely future piece versus several of the current players. This is the type of year where we need to identify a reliever who is not afraid to toss up 2-3 innings and then come back to toss 2-3 innings 2 days later. It may be more of a soft-tosser/rubber arm, but that is one person who saves the pen. Maybe a guy later in his career who wants to play in the Show. You also could see why position player could eat an inning or two in a game like we’re currently in, down 9-1…make that 11-1.
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Good to pick up a win. Our relief pitching, especially Kopech, and our doubles hitting tonight were positives. Perhaps Kopech in this relief role like this is where he can add the most value.
What concerns me: the strikeouts. I see a lot of pitchers having double-digit Ks against us, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see us on the receiving end up having a game with 15 or 18 Ks. Also, playing Maldonado when he’s batting under .100 and striking out 30% of the time. Does Maldonado really give us that much of an upgrade on defense and development to let him add nearly nothing to the lineup?
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On 4/7/2024 at 8:59 PM, ScootsMcGoots said:
Prime in terms of putting a winning product on the field. The 94-08 Sox and 90s Bulls are long gone. There has been nearly zero winning since. That is what I mean by he's long past his prime.
We’re definitely on the same page. It’s possible Virginia McCaskey could put a winning Bears’ team on the field next year, even at 101.
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24 minutes ago, ScootsMcGoots said:
Since 2013, our beloved Chicago White Sox have had exactly one full season where the team was above .500--2021. I'm not counting the pandemic year as a real season, none of us were able to enjoy it in person anyway. Let that soak in. 10 years. 2024 will be 11. One. Fucking. Season. And our competition is Detroit, Cleveland, Minnesota and Kansas City. Gag me. So utterly pathetic. I'm going to list the record below so we can all be reminded of how disgusting this organization has been run:
2013: 63-99
2014: 73-89
2015: 76-86
2016: 78-84
2017: 67-95
2018: 62-100
2019: 72-89
2020: 35-25
2021: 93-69
2022: 81-81
2023: 61-101
And 2024 we are starting at 1-9. Probably will be the worst season out of that list. Reinsdorf, it's time to hang it up. You are well past your prime.
I am guessing that you’re talking about JR’s prime in terms of spending money? I don’t care if our owner is 110 as long as they are willing to give the team some semblance of resources. I still haven’t found much of a reason to make some of the signings we did, rather than spend less and give innings to guys who will actually be here. That was also surprising.
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There will be positive individual impacts to this season. Hopefully we see we have 2-3 guys who can start in the future.
Two of our better offensive guys on a likely 50-60 win club are now injured at the start of the year. I would guess they aren’t going to be rushed back. That may not cost us a ton of wins or matter in the scheme of things, but it could cost us a few.
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19 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said:
Korey Lee has already shown more pop than any other healthy player on the roster right now, he should be the ever day starter but this manager and organization don't want to play the young guys
This was my argument. If we aren’t serious about competing and JR wants to save money, have Lee be the everyday starter with a veteran back-up. It gives a year tryout to see what is there with him. The slogan, “We’re seeing if these kids can play.”
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I’m trying to explain to my kids how the team is so bad. After a lot of conversation, they seem to understand 1.) how bad this ownership group is at giving resources to bring in enough MLB talent to compete and 2.) how the guys we have aren’t hitting 3.) injuries although that doesn’t seem to have had a major impact yet.
While it has been an interesting exercise to get it to their level, boy does it make you feel like we have no shot until ownership and administration is gone. When asked, “Well, how can we win?” I had to explain that we need a lot of young guys to develop better than they are and some older players to have the best years of their career.
Game thread? 6/13 Game thread.
in 2024 Season in Review
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Crochet increasing his trade value with this performance. Amazing! Too bad we couldn’t get him insurance runs with 1st and 2nd with no outs.