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    2020 RF options

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Sox have had a lot of interest in Puig the past few seasons, iirc. Weren't they rumoured to be after him at the trade deadline or offseason a few years back?

    I feel like based off positional need, and that he's piqued their interest in the past, and maybe because of the Cuban thing Puig is here next year.

     

     

    NFL Thread 2019-2020

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    24 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

    I'd argue Angelo was better. He built a top defense that would end up lasting a decade. The only guys he inherited were Urlacher and Mike Brown, and both were s drafted the season prior to him taking over. Pace has built a great defense, but it's only going to last for 3-5 years. Jerry had a lot of time to find a QB, didn't get it done. Pace doesn't have that luxury. Jerry was GM of the Bears for 11 seasons and completely wasted a group with possibly 4 HOF on defense for a large chunk of that time. (Tillman is the borderline guy, Urlacher, Peppers and Briggs are locks IMO) Pace built this team from scratch pretty quickly. Eddie Jackson and Roquan Smith are really good players, but they're too young to know if they're HOF. Leonard Floyd is nice, but he's going to be gone because of Mack. Not a special player though. Fuller's really good(and the one player Pace inherited), not a HOF. Jerry Angelo was GM for 11 years for a reason. He got to see out the entire shelf life of his incredible defense he built. I think that was a mistake. This defense is in the same spot, with the Mack acquisition that the Urlacher/Briggs/Tillman group was when Angelo signed Peppers. They're toward the end of their prime. They have to win this year or next year. That's the window. If Pace wastes this year, he should be gone. If Mitch sucks, nothing is going to happen with this group. I'd feel much better if Mack was 24 instead of 28. In that case, I'd be willing to give Pace more time, like Angelo got. But not much longer. 

    Angelo's failure was never finding a QB, and Lovie's failure was not knowing the difference between offensive mind and his asshole. When Urlacher, Briggs and Tillman were healthy, The Bears had a top 10 D. Angelo GMed a team to a SB appearance, and won 3 playoff games. Pace has had one PO appearance and zero wins. Right now, Angelo has the better Resume. 

    I feel like JA's biggest downfall was that he never drafted/signed or had any real depth on the roster. I could be wrong though. But you're saying JA is better because in 10 years he accomplished more than Pace has in 4?

    JA's 4th year as a GM the Bears only had 1 playoff appearance (2001), Pace's 4th year we have one playoff appearance (2018). I'm not saying Pace is infallible or anything but it's way too early to can Pace is they don't make the playoffs. 

    Under Jerry Angelo, the team didn't even win a playoff game until 2006, their third time in the dance since he had taken over.

     

     

     

     

    NFL Thread 2019-2020

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    8 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

    This whole thing was doomed to fail. Trubisky was a project. He was drafted 2nd overall. Both are facts. Because of (1), (2) should have never happened. Pace has done a wonderful job with the rest of the team, but he missed with the QB. Badly. He's Jerry Angelo. Don't let him stick around as long as Jerry did. He shouldn't get that many chances. If this team wins fewer than 9 games Pace should be fired. It is inexcusable to waste this defense on Mitch. It's a fireable offense, really. They owe it to Mack to trade him after this season. He's never winning anything here if Mitch continues to suck. 

     

    Look, I'm over Mitch too but this is a huge stretch. Pace is a much better GM than JA. 

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    WSI

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Yeah, Longshot is being an idiot.

    We have 1-2 conservatives on our board. The rest of us are mostly Democratic socialists or social democrats.

    I shouldn't have said anything. I'll probably get some magazine subscriptions sent to my house now. 

    WSI

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    On 8/21/2019 at 10:44 AM, y2chae said:

    Good riddance. In their quest for mainstream acceptance, they decided the board would be subject to heavy handed moderation. So it became a ghost town of mods wielding their internet power and the several ass kissers left that were okay with that. 

    Much better Sox communities elsewhere wether it's here, SSS, Sox Machine, etc 

    You forgot Soxhaps

    Machado signs with Padres 10/300

    in The Diamond Club

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    Ok.Rick Hahn is a great GM. He has nothing to do with the White Sox being 134 games under .500 his 6 seasons,even if the best he could muster was 78 wins in the at least 3 seasons he was all in.

    Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams should not be doing this rebuild, whether you like it or not. I would venture to guess the vast majority here would agree with that. So stalk them.

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    Agreed.

    Least Favorite Sox 3rd baseman over last decade

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Morel. In the minors he was this high OBP with good defence and potential power bat and he came to Chicago and just, bleh.  I know Sox prospects tend to do that, but man even his glove wasn't anything to write about (mostly 0 DRS seasons, with one being +3 in 2011).

     

    You could say the same for Fields (27HR/100wRC+ in 07) then flopped.

     

    Keppinger was a let down too.

     

    Probably should have kept Uribe and put him at third.

    Machado signs with Padres 10/300

    in The Diamond Club

    Posted · Edited by nickofypres

    6 minutes ago, Bigsoxhurt35 said:

    Shame on me for being a confident fan of my number 1 seed and MVP QB. Shame on me.

     

    I think the Colts win. Luck is the more experienced QB and has a great line. The Chiefs and Maholmes are great, but I'd put twenty pounds on Indy.

     

     

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