Jimbo1965

It seems as if there is very little actual player development/coaching in the Sox system. They seem to just let them play and the players will sort themselves out. It doesn't seem to be working. Almost every top 20 position player has regressed except Siemens, Thompson, Black, Wilkins and Phegley too) and only Siemens or Phegley will do anything in the majors. Thats for an entire minor league system - one guy. I'm a huge Sox fan but I have never seen a minor league system so devoid of talent.

Isn't Ravelo the guy that quit last year?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 13, 2013 -> 01:24 PM) Part of this depends on your definition of "prospect". For me, Shoemaker is a prospect, but he's fringey. I figured him for AA coming into the season, and if he had hit well there, I think he'd have been more on the radar. He's certainly hit well on his way up, but he's been consistently old-for-level, and he's unfortunately in the one positional crowd in the Sox system that actually has some depth (OF). And I've never heard anything stand out about his defense either, though I haven't heard anything bad. That all said, I'd prefer with guys like him (and Dan Black is another example) that, if they continue to hit at a high level like that, even if tools-wise they don't rate very high, they should challenge them to see who shakes out. That may still happen for Shoemaker, but now with missing most or all of 2013, he's going to be pretty behind, trying to remember how to hit, while being 1-2 years too old for his level and stuck behind guys. Not an impossible task, but, a very tough road. Obviously I hope he makes it happen. Hankerd is a 28 year old who has been in A ball the past couple years, and never got above AA. His AA numbers were nothing very good either. His big numbers last year at both levels of A ball came in limited action as well. He hasn't played this year, but is not on the DL. I had thought he went to another org, I read somewhere, but maybe I'm wrong on that. He is likely out of baseball now, in this case, but again I don't really know. You are not wrong. But it seems unfair to slight someone because they are old for their league. They have no control over that. Why would Kenny/Hahn do that? Cyle Hankerd never got a chance in the majors and hit .400 in his 15 AB's in AAA. I would have him in AAA to see what he could do this year? What would you do with him? Part of my frustration is every day I go over yesterday's minor league box scores. They have so few players hitting. All of their top position players save Siemens are not hitting. Black was never in any top 20. Also I like players who know how to take a walk.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 13, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) Leesman was waived and claimed by the Rangers. He refused assignment and came back to the Sox AAA team as a free agent. I haven't heard anything more since. Shirek left for Korea. It still shows Hankerd attached to Sox in MILB.COM with no stats for this year. I'm glad Leesman is back. Hankerd and Shoemaker have good stats so it baffles me when they are not considered prospects. It just makes sense that if they can do it at one level they are at least considered prospects at the next level until they actually fail. Shoemaker has been kind of a favorite of mine for having good stats but they move him so slowly. I was looking forward to him in AA.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 13, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) Hankerd was a minor league ringer, not a prospect really, and he went to another org. Shirek was just stuck behind too many people, and elected to go pitch in Korea. He may show up on major league radars again in the future. Leesman was indeed a prospect, always sort of a mysterious one. He was put on waivers recently, claimed by Texas, Texas assigned him to AAA, he rejected the assignment and went FA, and the Sox picked him back up. He was injured in the playoffs last year, and was still just recovering when he was waived. So he's probably back in AZ now, waiting for a chance with Charlotte to open up. Thanks. Very informative, you really know your stuff!

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 12, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) Yeah, we discussed that here back in March I think. He is technically on W-S's DL. His girlfriend was tweeting about the surgery, and before then, we'd had the info posted here. Thanks for the info. I'm new to this site. What about the rest?

Whatever happened to Cyle Hankerd and Brady Shoemaker? Why did the Sox get rid of Shirek and Leesman? Shirek maybe but I thought Leesman was considered a decent prospect. Mustain never did anything anyway.