You know my vote, just want to get the Soxtalk consesus.

Zemaitis. Phillips isn't nearly as good, despite the fact that he did have a good Orange Bowl. Zemaitis was consistantly better in college, and I'm curious as to why most draft boards have Phillips higher ranked.

 

Zemaitis is basically the same speed (not really fast for a corner, which will cause problems in the pros likely), taller, heavier, and could also play safety for the team that takes him.

Zemaitis.  Phillips isn't nearly as good, despite the fact that he did have a good Orange Bowl.  Zemaitis was consistantly better in college, and I'm curious as to why most draft boards have Phillips higher ranked.

 

Zemaitis is basically the same speed (not really fast for a corner, which will cause problems in the pros likely), taller, heavier, and could also play safety for the team that takes him.

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I talk to a Penn State fan on another board and me and him both agree that Zemaitis' big knock (lack of a 2nd gear) really doesnt exist. He doesnt get burned that much and even when he's played against faster WR's he taken good care of them.

 

People are grading up Anwar because they saw the Orange Bowl and think hes god. AZ = Big Strong and Fast... with a knack for the ball.

I talk to a Penn State fan on another board and me and him both agree that Zemaitis' big knock (lack of a 2nd gear) really doesnt exist.  He doesnt get burned that much and even when he's played against faster WR's he taken good care of them.

 

People are grading up Anwar because they saw the Orange Bowl and think hes god.  AZ = Big Strong and Fast... with a knack for the ball.

Well, Zeimitis isn't really fast *that* fast. He runs something like a 4.5 40, which isn't enough to keep up with the elite receivers in the league.

 

And yea, I know about the lack of a second gear. My brother goes to PSU and has season tickets (basically a diehard fan now ), so if I ever need information about PSU players or whatever, he's got me covered

Well, Zeimitis isn't really fast *that* fast.  He runs something like a 4.5 40, which isn't enough to keep up with the elite receivers in the league.

 

And yea, I know about the lack of a second gear.  My brother goes to PSU and has season tickets (basically a diehard fan now ), so if I ever need information about PSU players or whatever, he's got me covered

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4.5 is plenty fast enough for me, if you give me a player as strong as AZ on the outside with that ballhawking and he can run a 4.6 and I'll still be high on him.

4.5 is plenty fast enough for me, if you give me a player as strong as AZ on the outside with that ballhawking and he can run a 4.6 and I'll still be high on him.

My only worry is that I don't want another Tillman. Now, Tillman doesn't suck completely, but the Bears don't need another CB like him. They lack speed in the secondary, and picking someone who is more of a speedster, but lacks as much strength as a Zemaitis, would be beneficial.

My only worry is that I don't want another Tillman.  Now, Tillman doesn't suck completely, but the Bears don't need another CB like him.  They lack speed in the secondary, and picking someone who is more of a speedster, but lacks as much strength as a Zemaitis, would be beneficial.

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he reminds more of Vasher actually while watching him. Just not small and weak coming out of hte draft (Vasher has done a lot of work in the wieght room.. hes gotten much better). He uses his strength a lot.. like Tillman, but I cant get over how he comes up with INT's in big games a la Vasher

 

Just knows where the ball is, Jerry and Greg better have this guy on the short list.

Oh, and Tillman aint slow.. its just Steve Smith is unreally fast.

Oh, and Tillman aint slow.. its just Steve Smith is unreally fast.

At the combine, Tillman ran a 4.49, similar to Zemaitis' speed. Its not that fast, and although not that slow, it just isn't enough to keep up with elite receivers, and hurts if you are looking for a #1 CB.

At the combine, Tillman ran a 4.49, similar to Zemaitis' speed.  Its not that fast, and although not that slow, it just isn't enough to keep up with elite receivers, and hurts if you are looking for a #1 CB.

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I dont trust 40 times.