July 7, 200322 yr baker saying odd things I think Baker is going to have a very short tenure in Chicago
July 7, 200322 yr baker saying odd things I think Baker is going to have a very short tenure in Chicago was jesse in his hip pocket when he said this....lol........if not hes gonna be soon........
July 7, 200322 yr baker saying odd things I think Baker is going to have a very short tenure in Chicago i dunno man, cant argue with his logic. I dont know whether it affects performance though.
July 7, 200322 yr Author hell, you know Jesse has nothing to do with anything here and just as Baylor went so will Baker with no one saying a word - losing and gross stupidity get no defense from anyone
July 7, 200322 yr hell, you know Jesse has nothing to do with anything here and just as Baylor went so will Baker with no one saying a word - losing and gross stupidity get no defense from anyone but jesse does have alot to do with things still around these parts....just ask the owner of the e2 nite club......with these comments of bakers im sure hes gonna seek a new friend.......ya gotta admit those are some pretty strange things to say, espically comin from a ball manager......
July 7, 200322 yr hell, you know Jesse has nothing to do with anything here and just as Baylor went so will Baker with no one saying a word - losing and gross stupidity get no defense from anyone How is it stupidity? Seems pretty logical.
July 7, 200322 yr Author Jesse works very effectively in the real world - Baker has shown himself to be another stupid ignorant jock who may know baseball but nothing more - no one wil give him a golden parachute or anything else but a push, or silence - except on the cubs board where they are screaming
July 7, 200322 yr Jesse works very effectively in the real world - Baker has shown himself to be another stupid ignorant jock who may know baseball but nothing more - no one wil give him a golden parachute or anything else but a push, or silence - except on the cubs board where they are screaming well i dont want to get into a jesse battle or anything like that.. maybe i should have put that first comment in green......????
July 7, 200322 yr Jesse works very effectively in the real world - Baker has shown himself to be another stupid ignorant jock who may know baseball but nothing more - no one wil give him a golden parachute or anything else but a push, or silence - except on the cubs board where they are screaming Thats just wrong. Im sorry, thats just wrong. You continue to judge and ridicule people that you really know nothing about.
July 7, 200322 yr Author No prob HSC - I think it is interesting the Trib broke this story - how stupid Baker was to say something like that - talk about cooking your own goose
July 7, 200322 yr No prob HSC - I think it is interesting the Trib broke this story - how stupid Baker was to say something like that - talk about cooking your own goose yeah that wasnt exactly the smartest thing to come out of his mouth lately......... sometimes i wonder if they dont get cooked out there during all those day games........
July 7, 200322 yr Author No prob HSC - I think it is interesting the Trib broke this story - how stupid Baker was to say something like that - talk about cooking your own goose yeah that wasnt exactly the smartest thing to come out of his mouth lately......... sometimes i wonder if they dont get cooked out there during all those day games........ Sun Baked Baker - I think sunstroke may have a role here!
July 7, 200322 yr Was that interview recorded, taped, or what? Baker had to be kidding, teasing, joking, tongue in cheek, something.
July 7, 200322 yr Was that interview recorded, taped, or what? Baker had to be kidding, teasing, joking, tongue in cheek, something. Even if he isn't so what? Who said jocks have to be geniuses? I don't like Dusty Baker and I certainly don't like the Cubs but I hope this doesn't cause him any undo grief. There is no such thing as "free speech" in this country unless it's sanitized and doesn't offend anybody. It's so easy to called a racist, sexist, homophobe, ageist, etc etc etc. Race remains a painful topic and there is hardly ever any meaningful dialogue about the subject. Only guilty hand wringing is allowed. Al Campanis and Jimmy the Greek had their lives and careers ruined over ill chosen remarks. Reggie White got lambasted, but managed to survive although I think he lost his Chunky Soup endorsement over it. Maybe Dusty will survive this. Much ado about nothing.
July 7, 200322 yr Even if he isn't so what? Who said jocks have to be geniuses? I don't like Dusty Baker and I certainly don't like the Cubs but I hope this doesn't cause him any undo grief. There is no such thing as "free speech" in this country unless it's sanitized and doesn't offend anybody. It's so easy to called a racist, sexist, homophobe, ageist, etc etc etc. Race remains a painful topic and there is hardly ever any meaningful dialogue about the subject. Only guilty hand wringing is allowed. Al Campanis and Jimmy the Greek had their lives and careers ruined over ill chosen remarks. Reggie White got lambasted, but managed to survive although I think he lost his Chunky Soup endorsement over it. Maybe Dusty will survive this. Much ado about nothing. People need to get over their issues, stop being so sensitive and judgmental, and get lives. Its that simple. I agree with your statements.
July 7, 200322 yr Baker is a moron. If you read the article, notice how the U.S. Army thinks otherwise; this is common logic! If I place something white under a blistering sun, and then something black, the black object will get hotter at a higher rate than the white object. Now, if these were people, the black man would begin to sweat much sooner, and lose performance. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot and should retake 7th grade Science.
July 7, 200322 yr Baker is a moron. If you read the article, notice how the U.S. Army thinks otherwise; this is common logic! If I place something white under a blistering sun, and then something black, the black object will get hotter at a higher rate than the white object. Now, if these were people, the black man would begin to sweat much sooner, and lose performance. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot and should retake 7th grade Science. I must be an idiot. People get heat stroke from overheating, which is caused through their skin. White people will overheat sooner. Nice try though.
July 7, 200322 yr Baker is a moron. If you read the article, notice how the U.S. Army thinks otherwise; this is common logic! If I place something white under a blistering sun, and then something black, the black object will get hotter at a higher rate than the white object. Now, if these were people, the black man would begin to sweat much sooner, and lose performance. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot and should retake 7th grade Science. Actually that is correct. That (an object that is black will absorb more heat than a white object) is basic thermal dynamics. Now with people, a big factor in regards to heat sickness is hydration. If your body is getting enough fluids, it will take longer for heat sickness to take effect.
July 7, 200322 yr baker saying odd things I think Baker is going to have a very short tenure in Chicago was jesse in his hip pocket when he said this....lol........if not hes gonna be soon........ Let's see..... Dusty Baker made the comments and Dusty Baker happens to be BLACK! I'm willing to put money on it that you don't hear even a chirp out of Jesse on this one cause, as I've said before, Jesse is..... brace yourselves..... A f***IN' HYPOCRITE!!!!! :fyou
July 7, 200322 yr did u no he keeps a box of toothpicks in hisback pocket and more in his side pockets during a game
July 7, 200322 yr Why do you guys post links to articles you need to register to read? Whatd it say? I aint registerin...
July 7, 200322 yr Author Why do you guys post links to articles you need to register to read? Whatd it say? I aint registerin... as a point of info, Psycho, the trib registration is no big deal - to my knowledge no email or spam comes from that - or else I wouldn't have gone just link - but seeing as how we are long time friends, just for you, here goes! Rick Morrissey Rick Morrissey In The Wake Of The News Baker raises heat in unusual way July 6, 2003 The Cubs had two problems in the first inning Saturday: It was hot, and Shawn Estes was white. Then it cooled off a bit, and Estes was still white. Worse, he was still Estes. It is Dusty Baker's opinion that blacks fare better in hot weather than whites do. How we arrived at this topic is something of a mystery, but the discussion started with the rigors of day games at Wrigley Field and ended with a Baker commentary on skin color and heat. advertisement advertisement Is the Cubs' manager right? There is enough evidence to suggest he isn't, but his theory does give Cubs fans another out should their team fall apart this season. To the normal excuses—too many day games, organizational cheapness, the Billy Goat curse, etc.—you can now add the Wilting White Man theory. "You have to pretend that you're a construction worker out there," Baker said before Saturday's game. "You have no choice. It's easier for me. It's easier for most Latin guys and it's easier for most minority people. Most of us come from heat. "You don't find too many brothers from New Hampshire and Maine and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Right? We were brought over here for the heat, right? Isn't that history? Weren't we brought over here because we can take the heat?" Baker is referring to blacks being captured in Africa and sold into slavery hundreds of years ago. They were brought here for no other reason than they were a convenient source of forced labor. "[blacks'] skin color is more conducive to heat than it is for lighter skin people, right?" Baker said. "You don't see brothers running around burnt. Yeah, that's fact. I'm not making this stuff up. Right? You don't see some brothers walking around with white stuff [sun block] on their ears and noses." If you took the converse of Baker's theory, blacks wouldn't have a chance if baseball were played on dog sleds in snow instead of in spikes on grass. Can we add to any more stereotypes here? And how does any of this explain Antonio Alfonseca, a Dominican who could give up a ninth-inning homer in Borneo or Stockholm? According to a study by Dr. Robert S. Helman of New York Medical College, "heatstroke affects all races equally. However, because of differences in social advantages, the annual death rate because of environmental conditions is more than three times higher in blacks than in whites." Another study by the Borden Institute, which researches medical issues in the military, states: "It has been suggested that as a group, blacks are less heat-tolerant than whites. This is certainly supported by U.S. Army medical reports." I don't want to make any more out of this than what it is—a man talking out loud without checking his facts first. Baker isn't saying the solution to the Cubs' difficulties is more people of color and fewer people of pastiness. He's saying what a lot of people take on faith, that blacks are better suited for work in warm weather than whites are. He just happens to be wrong. But thank goodness Baker is black and not white. In 1987, Dodgers general manager Al Campanis said blacks lacked the "necessities" to be baseball managers or general managers. The next year, CBS personality Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder said blacks were better athletes than whites because they were bred that way. "This goes all the way back to the Civil War, when a slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid, see," he said. The careers of both men were ruined. Baker doesn't want day games to be an excuse for his team's struggles, and that's a good thing considering the Cubs went decades without a title during a time when every team played day games exclusively. Day games as an explanation doesn't work around here. "People don't want to hear that as an excuse or an alibi," Baker said. "They don't want to hear that my team is exhausted, so we don't say it. It's just a fact." The Cardinals' Matt Morris struggled Saturday, giving up four runs in five innings. He has been bothered by a sore shoulder, but my sources tell me that isn't the real problem. The problem is that he has a sore white shoulder. The Cubs ended up beating the Cardinals 6-5 on Alex Gonzalez's game-winning single in the ninth. So, yeah, a Hispanic guy saved Estes, a white guy, from another heat-related loss. But Gonzalez's hit came off Esteban Yan, another Dominican. Now I'm really confused.
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