witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 A win is a win, you're right. I'd be happier if the Sox played a full 9 innings first. If they could put 9 great innings together, instead of 8 like they did today, I would be much happier. The teams that put together 9 great innings are the teams that win in the long run. The teams that put together 8 great innings and 1 s***ty inning are the teams that you do not hear about as part of the all-time greatest teams, or even World Series teams. This team needs to be kicked in the ass. The way theya re playing, you could say they look like a sure-fire ALCS team or a sure-fire World Series team. You could also say they look like a 3rd or 4th place team with no shot in hell at even being .500. Sad thing is, you'd be right both times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted August 6, 2003 Author Share Posted August 6, 2003 Now the question is are you talking about posters, or the Sox??? the sox of course, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 A win is a win, you're right. I'd be happier if the Sox played a full 9 innings first. If they could put 9 great innings together, instead of 8 like they did today, I would be much happier. The teams that put together 9 great innings are the teams that win in the long run. The teams that put together 8 great innings and 1 s***ty inning are the teams that you do not hear about as part of the all-time greatest teams, or even World Series teams. This team needs to be kicked in the ass. The way theya re playing, you could say they look like a sure-fire ALCS team or a sure-fire World Series team. You could also say they look like a 3rd or 4th place team with no shot in hell at even being .500. Sad thing is, you'd be right both times. I don't think you could say the first one, but that's just me. Not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted August 6, 2003 Author Share Posted August 6, 2003 LOL this isnt even worth a debate. If you lack talent and/or confidence, you can still win baseball games. It doesnt mean you can win it all. A win is one baseball game. Anyone who says "a win is a win" has no idea how to look forward, to what really counts. If the bulls win game one of teh season, hey a win is a win,t heyre going all the way right!!!!!!!! please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 A win is a win, you're right. I'd be happier if the Sox played a full 9 innings first. If they could put 9 great innings together, instead of 8 like they did today, I would be much happier. The teams that put together 9 great innings are the teams that win in the long run. The teams that put together 8 great innings and 1 s***ty inning are the teams that you do not hear about as part of the all-time greatest teams, or even World Series teams. This team needs to be kicked in the ass. The way theya re playing, you could say they look like a sure-fire ALCS team or a sure-fire World Series team. You could also say they look like a 3rd or 4th place team with no shot in hell at even being .500. Sad thing is, you'd be right both times. I don't think you could say the first one, but that's just me. Not yet. At times, IMO, you could. When this team was during their hot streaks(the 12 games against the Cubs and Twinks and their 15 game stretch against the AL's least, minus Toronto), that team, IMO, was an ALCS/World Series caliber team. But, with the way this team has played in the past 2 months, as a whole, they are, at the very least, a playoff caliber team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 A win is a win, you're right. I'd be happier if the Sox played a full 9 innings first. If they could put 9 great innings together, instead of 8 like they did today, I would be much happier. The teams that put together 9 great innings are the teams that win in the long run. The teams that put together 8 great innings and 1 s***ty inning are the teams that you do not hear about as part of the all-time greatest teams, or even World Series teams. This team needs to be kicked in the ass. The way theya re playing, you could say they look like a sure-fire ALCS team or a sure-fire World Series team. You could also say they look like a 3rd or 4th place team with no shot in hell at even being .500. Sad thing is, you'd be right both times. I don't think you could say the first one, but that's just me. Not yet. At times, IMO, you could. When this team was during their hot streaks(the 12 games against the Cubs and Twinks and their 15 game stretch against the AL's least, minus Toronto), that team, IMO, was an ALCS/World Series caliber team. But, with the way this team has played in the past 2 months, as a whole, they are, at the very least, a playoff caliber team. Ya, mainly because of the division they are in....but don't tell anyone else that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 The White Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Red Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Yankees bullpen makes it interesting. The Cardinals bullpen makes it interesting. All of these teams COULD be playoff bound, and most of them will get there. I'm just happy that Marte could get the 27th out. Some games, Gordon will get it. Some games, Koch MIGHT EVEN get it. As long as SOMEONE can close a game, I'm okay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 The White Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Red Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Yankees bullpen makes it interesting. The Cardinals bullpen makes it interesting. All of these teams COULD be playoff bound, and most of them will get there. I'm just happy that Marte could get the 27th out. Some games, Gordon will get it. Some games, Koch MIGHT EVEN get it. As long as SOMEONE can close a game, I'm okay with it. White Sox = no established closer right now Yanks, Cards, BoSox = All have established closers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkit Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 No established closer yet... The boys are a tad tired after making a hard run from 6 1/2 back to 1 back since the All Star break...they'll be fine. And no closer established yet...we have all of August and September to get that decided. It's Butt Ugly, but it's still happening. We even ducked the Lima voodun...and now he's gonna sit at O'Hare in bad weather and try to charm gnats... Forkit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 The White Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Red Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Yankees bullpen makes it interesting. The Cardinals bullpen makes it interesting. All of these teams COULD be playoff bound, and most of them will get there. I'm just happy that Marte could get the 27th out. Some games, Gordon will get it. Some games, Koch MIGHT EVEN get it. As long as SOMEONE can close a game, I'm okay with it. White Sox = no established closer right now Yanks, Cards, BoSox = All have established closers I think you can blame Manuel for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 The White Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Red Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Yankees bullpen makes it interesting. The Cardinals bullpen makes it interesting. All of these teams COULD be playoff bound, and most of them will get there. I'm just happy that Marte could get the 27th out. Some games, Gordon will get it. Some games, Koch MIGHT EVEN get it. As long as SOMEONE can close a game, I'm okay with it. White Sox = no established closer right now Yanks, Cards, BoSox = All have established closers I think you can blame Manuel for that. When we had one (Koch), all most of you did was b**** about how he sucks and you wanted him out of there. Make up your mind. JM has to work with the deck that he has, and if we constantly have a pitcher who is in a slump, it's hard for him to have any kind of consistency in using the bullpen. Maybe blame KW for not addressing this issue at the trade deadline. A guy like Scott Williamson was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 The White Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Red Sox bullpen makes it interesting. The Yankees bullpen makes it interesting. The Cardinals bullpen makes it interesting. All of these teams COULD be playoff bound, and most of them will get there. I'm just happy that Marte could get the 27th out. Some games, Gordon will get it. Some games, Koch MIGHT EVEN get it. As long as SOMEONE can close a game, I'm okay with it. White Sox = no established closer right now Yanks, Cards, BoSox = All have established closers I think you can blame Manuel for that. When we had one (Koch), all most of you did was b**** about how he sucks and you wanted him out of there. Make up your mind. JM has to work with the deck that he has, and if we constantly have a pitcher who is in a slump, it's hard for him to have any kind of consistency in using the bullpen. Maybe blame KW for not addressing this issue at the trade deadline. A guy like Scott Williamson was available. I'm for Flash being the full-time closer. I think that's the way it should be(thoguh we very well could have Marte close full-time now with Schow and Wunsch in the pen). I just wasn't happy that Manuel had him throw 44 pitches on Monday, and I wasn't happy about how he had him throw today after throwing 44 pitches on Monday. That's too many pitches for a guy that is not stretched out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 I just wasn't happy that Manuel had him throw 44 pitches on Monday And do you think JM was happy? He only threw 11 pitches in the 8th. If he goes out in the 9th and does his job, he throws maybe 12-15 more, for a total of around 25. That is a bit more than usual, but nothing overly excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 And do you think JM was happy? He only threw 11 pitches in the 8th. If he goes out in the 9th and does his job, he throws maybe 12-15 more, for a total of around 25. That is a bit more than usual, but nothing overly excessive. He should have gone out and gotten him after about 25-30. Nothing wrong with bringing Botch into a game when the game is already out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 He should have gone out and gotten him after about 25-30. Nothing wrong with bringing Botch into a game when the game is already out of hand. Then people would b**** about him "giving up" on the game. Either way, he's going to get crucified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 Then people would b**** about him "giving up" on the game. Either way, he's going to get crucified. I guess we can agree on that part. But if Koch gets the last 2 outs or whatever, I don't think we crucify him as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 This team is weird. Tuesday, a 5-1 lead, we hang on to win 5-4. Today, we have a 4-0 lead, we hang on to win 4-3. If we would have been ahead 6-0, we would have won 6-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted August 7, 2003 Author Share Posted August 7, 2003 This team is weird. Tuesday, a 5-1 lead, we hang on to win 5-4. Today, we have a 4-0 lead, we hang on to win 4-3. If we would have been ahead 6-0, we would have won 6-5. YEAH. I atttibute it to no killer instinct. who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.