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Moan4Yoan

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  1. 40 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    I definitely am in the trade McCann camp. I also was one of the few that had no problem with the White Sox signing him last year. 
     

    I also would have had no problem with the White Sox trying to extend him if they didn’t have Grandal. But they have Grandal. Grandal is their Carlton Fisk signing, When the Sox signed Fisk, they had signed Jim Essian as a free agent earlier that offseason to be the starting catcher. He serves a purpose now but a small one, A purpose that can be covered by Collins and or Mercedes at a fraction of the cost, and if neither are good enough to be a back up catcher then you find a cheap one somewhere else No need to spend what they are paying McCann for the role he will have especially with what they already have.

    I agree with you.  McCann has a lot more value to another team that would start him as opposed to the Sox.  And I would be very interested to see what long-term piece the Sox could acquire for him.

  2. Trading McCann is a calculated risk.  You are basically hoping that Grandal doesn’t get injured long-term this season.  But it’s a risk I’d be willing to take, especially if McCann can bring back a good long-term piece.  You still have Collins and Yermin and could always acquire a defense-first catcher.

  3. 9 hours ago, ron883 said:

    Just look at the guy. There is absolutely no way he can play 3rd. It doesn't matter if they experimented with him there. Quite frankly I'm surprised he can even catch with all that mass he is packing

    Agreed.  Just look at him jogging the bases after his two homers this spring.  The earth is trembling due to his mass.  And he doesn’t simply look fat.  He just looks gigantic and beefy.  He’s a DH first guy.

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  4. 1 hour ago, oldsox said:

    Are you telling us that you prefer Tapia to McCann?  Not close.  McCann much better.

    But Tapia has four years of control left and is young enough to still break out.  That is worth more than one year of McCann at $5.4 million, especially in the limited role he will serve for the Sox in this one season.

  5. 35 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

    Idk about 150. Not as a strict back up. Like I said, guys would have to get hurt or Edwin would fall off a cliff offensively to be released.

    Edwin could do either at his age and shape.  I like keeping Yermin around for that possibility.

  6. 4 hours ago, ptatc said:

    Did they say if it is truly a JR ownership or the White Sox or Bulls ownership groups that own it? Just curious, as they are all distinctly different groups.

    Crane Kenney literally mentioned JR’s name in relation to ownership of Stadium.

  7. 36 minutes ago, mqr said:

    My favorite part about this is that they both observed and learned absolutely nothing from what is going on in LA. 

    Ultimately, is Dodgers viewership or sales down because a major cable provider doesn’t carry Dodgers games?  They are still making money hand over fist via Spectrum.

    If Comcast signs on for Marquee, which they probably will eventually, all of this will be forgotten.

  8. 58 minutes ago, wegner said:

    I have WOW cable and they currently are not carrying the Marquee Network...please let that continue and as a bonus, I would appreciate the Marquee Network signing Dave Kaplan so that I can truly avoid him in the future.  Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

    WOW! just added Marquee yesterday.

     

  9. 3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

    Oh I thought the new game was to pretend that the post meant something completely different and respond as such

    It was an interesting tidbit of news from The Score that probably neither you nor many other people knew before Crane Kenney said it this morning.  I figured I would share this news.  🤷‍♂  

  10. 53 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

    I'd argue that the last 4 years were much better than anything that took place from 2009-2015 though. They would constantly kick the can down the road. The organization was basically just treading water. Not losing enough to benefit, not building rosters good enough to win, not spending appropriately on amateur talent, no scouting or development changes geared toward sustain success. The success on the big league level over the past few years has been terrible but it was by design. They have more talent in the organization right now than they've had before and logical player development models in place that are sustainable into the future. 

    I think I agree with this.  Even though they were losing, you knew they at least had a plan.  The previous plan was simply treading water by signing a bunch of retread vets and hoping they all somehow have a magical season.

  11. 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

    I understand why many Sox fans - and fans around the game in general - point to Tampa as some enviable organization of scouting and development; they're very good at it.

    But... the Rays have won nothing. They have had great rosters that ownership would not supplement - this year alone, they could have easily had a top 3 roster entering the season. They had the pieces in place, and all they had to do was supplement them with a LITTLE money; not even a huge investment. Instead, they traded Pham to acquire more pieces, and made additional depth based moves. For all the Rays do well, they run the team - generally - like shit and I have no desire for the Sox to operate like that. Would I like the Sox to have the analytics department and scouting revolution similarly to Tampa? Sure - although I do think they've improved that quite a bit - but I don't envy the way the Rays operate. The goal is never to push the chips in and go for broke when the roster says too. Even the A's have pushed their chips in when the time called for it. 

    It’s just an example of a team that did much better than the Sox with Kenny and Hahn at the helm, with even less spending.  I don’t see how anyone could say Kenny and Hahn did anything other than a piss poor job in the last ten or so years pre-rebuild.

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  12. 18 minutes ago, ptatc said:

    My point exactly. Was it their change in philosophy or was it they were finally allowed to pursue their philosophy.

    Even if you point to a change in their philosophy, the Kenny/Hahn regime still blew the implementation of their previous philosophy with poor scouting and development, numerous bad draft picks, awful free agent signings, and over-the-hill veteran acquisitions.

    Unless your argument is either that no team could win with their old philosophy or that they were intentionally trying to lose?  Because Tampa Bay managed to do pretty well with a minuscule payroll.

  13. 1 hour ago, ptatc said:

    So how can the same people be bad GMs and know nothing, yet know what they are doing and make good moves now?

    Probably due to their shift or change in strategy.  Maybe identifying top prospects to acquire is more obvious and easier than signing mediocre veterans and hoping they are productive?

    Why was Theo Epstein good at developing offensive prospects and smaller acquisitions and trades but awful at developing pitching and making larger trades and acquisitions for high-priced players?

    Some GMs are good in certain areas and awful in others.  For the most part, Hahn has been great at working team-friendly contracts but awful at free agency in most years.

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