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at Charlotte through 4 innings:
49 pitches, 36 strikes
1 run on 5 hits, 2 K
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J4L-- I'm giving Ozzie and Kenny the benefit of the doubt, because I absolutely believe both should be fired if the Sox don't make the playoffs this year of "all-in".
Plenty of time to figure this out and there's plenty of talent on this team, but at the end of the season they have to be on top of the standings, or it's time to make organizational changes.
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 05:55 PM)Makes perfect sense. We are 2 1/2 and 2 games up on the Twins and Tigers respectively despite our bullpen doing everything it can to cost us games, so you want to send Sale down and call up some average right-handed relief prospect who isn't ready for the majors. I'm sure that will solve our bullpen problems and help us maintain our lead over our real rivals.
Yes.
I want a decent arm to be in middle relief. Thornton and Crain in setup roles, where they belong. And Santos to close, because he has closer stuff and a closer demeanor.
I think Sale is best served starting in the minors, and I'm not changing my opinion.
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Chet is listening to B&B. They used Linebrink goo left over.
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Just going with pitchers in the Sox organization, this is the pitching staff I'm looking forward to:
Starters: Danks, Peavy, Buehrle, Jackson, Floyd
Bullpen:
Humber--long relief
Pena-- long relief and slop
Ohman--LOOGY and slop
Carter-- inning here and there and setup when Crain and Thornton are taxed
Thornton--lefty setup
Crain--righty setup
Santos--CLOSER
I want Sale to be in the minors starting and I'm going to be consistent about this the rest of the season.
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New White Sox closer, Lori Moreland.
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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 04:51 PM)Haha, yesterday everyone was "SALE YES!!!!" and now he's the worst bullpen arm of all time and should be sent down.
This place has an attention span of roughly 20 hours. Quite comical
So everyone thinks the same way?
Based on what I've seen from Sale so far, is that hitters aren't fooled by him as much as they were last year.
The long term plan with him is to start. I'd like him to go to the minors the rest of the season to get 130-140 innings, and possibly be ready to go into the rotation next season.
It doesn't matter that he had one good outing last night. I want him to learn to be a professional starting pitcher now. We can get by with Ohman and Thornton as long as neither is the closer.
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So....Thornton isn't the closer? That's why he didn't start the 9th?
And then Sale sucked. And then Crain sucked.....and THEN Thornton sucked.
Wow.
Send Sale down to start all year. Call Carter up. Make Santos the closer.
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Ok, it's been cute and all, and I guess we're lucky to be 7-5 after 12 games, but Sergio Santos needs to be the closer for the next 150 games.
Enough.
And I'm almost ready to say Sale needs to go to Birmingham to start 23 games.
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As I mentioned in the game thread yesterday, winning series only matters in October. I hate when Don Cooper mentions winning series during the regular season, because it gives the team a false sense of security in the third game of a series if they have won the first two.
The season is 162 opportunities to try to win 90+ or however many games it takes to make the playoffs.
But I do like the angle of taking it a home stand or a road trip at a time to evaluate where they stand record-wise.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 08:02 AM)The sad part is that we get a walkoff homer and the thread is now 14 responses long. Yesterdays post game threads are now 75 and 142 posts long. Soxtalk really does love losing...
When the game ends bad in the 9 o'clock hour, you'll get a lot of comments. When the game is slow paced and ends after 10:30, you won't.
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Santos looked like a closer tonight. Hope Ozzie comes to his senses.
Tough win, but it was good.
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They have 36, 3-game series, and the other 54 games make up 2 and 4-game series. How about just ignore how many games you play a team at one time, and try to win every one of them? Obviously, it's not going to happen, but the mindset should be to take the field THAT DAY to try to win a game. Rinse, wash, repeat the next day.
I just think if you win the first two games of a series, they fall into a false sense of security knowing they "won the series".
Don Cooper says this all the time, and it drives me nuts.
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 01:52 PM)Yup. The sox have finished 3 series, and are 2-0-1. Just keep winning series.
I would like to rid the world of this mindset.
Winning series only matters in October. They have 162 opportunities to try to win 90+ games, or whatever it takes, to make the playoffs.
Winning streaks win divisions.
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If Ozzie was managing to win, he would have let Buehrle finish it. If the Sox were 3-6, perhaps he would have let Buehrle finish it. With a 6-3 record, his mindset was to use his closer and hopefully build confidence in him.
Now, I don't agree with this mindset. I think Buehrle should have finished what he started in a 1-0 game that he was dominating.
The proof will be in the pudding come late September. If they come up short, then Kenny and Ozzie have to go. I'll say that right now. "All-in" means you have to leave the table if you lose your chips.
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I think Dunn isn't as good as he was a couple days a go.
At this point, they'd be better off just waiting until Friday to get him back in there.
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Talbot is shutting out the Angels. Indians on their way to 8 in a row.
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I'm still listening to this garbage. He's so wrong tonight.
QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 11, 2011 -> 10:31 PM)Ranger, Hawk, Merkin. Ignore them at all costs. -
Rongey was calling it the right move before he even heard Ozzie make his comments.
He said "Pierre would have dropped the ball if Buehrle was out there".
Buehrle would have thrown a pop up or a groundout!
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Have to protect Buehrle's arm this year before he retires and hunts fulltime after this season.
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I'm sure Dan Bernstein will have some nice things to say tomorrow.
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He's playing the "Have to protect his arm" card.
f***ing apologist mouthpiece.
Buehrle goes out there, gets three outs on 12 pitches, and we all go home happy.
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Waiting for the inevitable line from Ranger:
"If they would have kept Buehrle in there, and he gave up a run, then you'd complain about them not going to the bullpen."
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Rongey thinks it was the right move to pull Buehrle. Shocking!
It was a weak sauce, asking to lose, move.
Peavy had rotator cuff tendinitis
in Pale Hose Talk
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Peavy just gave up a lead off homer in the 5th.