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    Mike Clevinger under investigation for domestic violence

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    31 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

    Can't the team just tell him to f*** off until the investigation is over? Or is that against CBA rules?

    Almost always, where's there's smoke there's fire.  Almost always is not 100% of the time.  Holding him back from full spring training would harm both him and the Sox if he were to be cleared.  Worse still would be if he were to be cleared two months from now.  I would think that would put the sox at significant contract liability.

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    Jason Benetti & Steve Stone back - options picked up

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    A lot of posts here seem to feel that everything is under the Sox's control.

    In a year or two, Jason will be gone anyway and it won't be the Sox fault.  His network career will quite naturally take precedence for him. 

    In a year or two, Stone will be gone anyway  and it won't be the Sox fault.  Retirement beckons - likely when Jason leaves.  He's three months younger than I am and the thought of that much travel time wouldn't be something that I'd accept these days and I doubt if he's in better shape and health than I am.

    Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal

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    Feeling better about signing after reading this new blurb in MLBTR today.  Sounds like more than just wishing and hoping that Clevinger will regain past form.  Quoting Katz:

    “We broke down some biomechanics stuff after we signed him to kind of show him the differences. Where he was different in all aspects of his delivery, which was probably in correlation to the knee … Now that he is healthy, he is working on it. His bullpens and the videos that I have seen, there’s been no kind of restrictions or anything that’s slowed him down from being able to be aggressive on that back leg

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    Sox serious about analytics

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    Article in The Athletic (pay): https://theathletic.com/4089120/2023/01/14/white-sox-san-mondry-cohen-arbitration-deals/

    Sox hire former Washington assistant GM Sam Mondry-Cohen. He spent the past year as a consultant for the Phillies. He's a senior fellow for Wharton’s sports analytics and business initiative at Penn. At Washington 2009-2021, he created their research and development dept and developed their internal stat data base. His "experience with the Nationals is rooted in trying to distill analytical information into actionable takeaways for players on the field"

    To me,  what shows this is really legit is that he will be traveling with the team all season.  Good article; worth the read if you have access.

     

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    2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread

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    25 minutes ago, shago said:

    💯 the latter, a rich guy traded $1M to play for a team with a positive vibe and a shot at winning vs. this dumpster fire of an organization. Easy trade....

     Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that Pollock’s deal also includes $3MM in performance bonuses.

    Usually some of those bonuses are pretty much automatic if healthy so instead of being unhappy with the Sox for $13mm, he has chance to be happy and get to $15mm with a base of $12mm

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    We're not up there trying to hit singles

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    New article today in The Athletic: "We're not up there trying to hit singles"  

    https://theathletic.com/4032036/2022/12/27/white-sox-hitting-coaches-approach-2023/

    Both of the hitting coaches are quoted: Johnson/Castro and "field coordinator" Tosar is tied in.   The three all live close to each in FL.  Approach is analytical game preparation.

    Castro : “The numbers are there, the analytics, and we use them. But once you step into the batter’s box, it’s about competing. We’ve already planned for this starting pitcher. We’ve seen his stuff, we know what the stuff does. Now we have a plan.

    Chris Johnson. “We’re not up there trying to hit singles, we’re not up there (searching) for the baseball. We’re up there expecting this pitch to be right where we want it, and we’re gonna let it go.”

    I also liked: "All three men live close enough to each other in Florida that Oscar Colás and Romy Gonzaalez's thrice-weekly visits to Tosar’s house in Miami for cage sessions so far this offseason have provided a forum for the coaches to share drills...."

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    Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal

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    2 hours ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

    Has it been covered yet that the Sox are signing a pitcher with a funky, extended delivery the same year where a pitch clock is being enforced?

    The rule is about having begun your motion -- not to have released the ball.  His lengthy delivery should not be an issue.  

    COACHING STAFF ANNOUNCED

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    1 hour ago, A-Train to 35th said:

    Daryl led the outfield and base running instruction which should be reason enough to dismiss him as we didn't fare to well in either.

    I would suggest that no one could have coached Eloy, AV, or Sheets into being major league outfielders.  Baserunning is something else and they took that away from him.

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    COACHING STAFF ANNOUNCED

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    Castro, 64, enters his first season as a major-league hitting coach after serving as the assistant hitting coach with the Atlanta Braves for the last eight years. He was part of the Braves coaching staff that won the World Series in 2021. A native of La Habana, Cuba, Castro has nine years of coaching experience in the majors (2015–22 with Atlanta and 2014 with the Chicago Cubs, as quality assurance coach). He also served as the interim hitting coach with the Seattle Mariners in 2008. After retiring as a player in 1990, Castro spent 24 seasons as a minor league hitting instructor in the Montreal Expos (1990–91, 2002–03), Florida Marlins (1992–2001), San Diego Padres (2003–07) and Mariners (2008–13) organizations. He played 14 seasons in the minor leagues, including four in the White Sox system (1982–85).

    Rodríguez, 63, begins his first season as the White Sox third-base coach after spending three seasons (2020–22) as Kansas City’s minor-league field coordinator. Among his 40 years of professional coaching experience, Rodríguez has served as the Royals third base coach (2011–13), Seattle’s first base coach (2008), Frank Robinson’s bench coach in Montreal (2004) and Washington (2005–06), Arizona’s third base (2002–03) and first base coach (2001) and Toronto’s third base coach (1998). After retiring as a player Rodríguez began his coaching career with a 15-year stint in the Angels’ organization from 1983–97.

    Tosar, 54, enters his first season as the White Sox major-league field coordinator following three seasons (2020–22) as a special assignment hitting coach in the Kansas City organization. During his tenure in the Royals system, he worked with Bobby Witt Jr., Kyle Isbel, MJ Melendez, Ryan O’Hearn and Edward Olivares. Tosar previously served as an international scout and special assignment hitting coach with the Dodgers (2012–19), scout and minor-league coach in the Seattle organization (2006–09), hitting coach in the Minnesota organization (2002), scout with the Florida Marlins (2000–01), and coach in the Tampa Bay system (1996–99).

    COACHING STAFF ANNOUNCED

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    https://www.soxon35th.com/white-sox-announce-2023-ml-coaching-staff/

    • Bench Coach: Charlie Montoyo
    • Pitching Coach: Ethan Katz
    • Bullpen Coach: Curt Hasler
    • Hitting Coach: José Castro
    • Assistant Hitting Coach: Chris Johnson
    • First Base Coach: Daryl Boston
    • Third Base Coach: Eddie Rodríguez
    • Major League Field Coordinator: Mike Tosar
    • Senior Director of Sports Performance: Geoff Head

    Only Daryl Boston back other than Katz-Hasler

     

     

    Sox Proudest Position

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    Every top 100 kind of list I've ever seen is reflective of the age of the respondents.  For the last 30 years, it's 1st base.

    If you want to really consider legacy positions, I agree with Mighty Mite's list which begins with Chico Carasquell in 1952.  That list doesn't even include one of the  one of the all time greats: Luke Appling who was at short, (and then some third) for 20 years starting in 1931

    So it's the better part of 90 years vs. the last 30 years

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    White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread

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    Iguchi, (if his English is good enough, if I recall correctly, his wife taught at Northwestern).  Would need a Spanish speaking bench coach)

    one World Series win; 3 Japanese series wins; been managing for 4 years; was personally solid in fundamentals; Japanese managers all drill in fundamentals.  The Sox are the worst fundamental team I've ever seen in defense, positioning, running the bases, and situational hitting.

    a huge competitive advantage for future free agents coming out of Japan.  (I won't say Ohtani in 2024 as a $300,000,000 contract would literally be the end for JR).

     

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    AL Central Standings Thread

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    RIGHT NOW:   cleveland 79-67; sox 76-71; cleveland up 3.5 and has tie-breaker

    IF SOX BEAT CLEVELAND 2-1; cleveland 80-69; sox 78-72; cleveland up 2.5 and has tie-breaker with c13/s12 games remaining

    IF SOX BEAT CLEVELAND 3-0; cleveland  79-70; sox 79-71; cleveland up 0.5 but Sox have tie-breaker

    If Sox 3-0 they have  alegimate chance; less than 3-0, no realistic chance 

     

    AL Central Standings Thread

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    sox      twins   Sox Lead
    current 74-70   current 72-70 1.0
               
    3-0 77-70   5-0 77-70 tied
    3-0 77-70   4-1 76-71 1.0
    3-0 77-70   3-2 75-72 2.0
    3-0 77-70   2-3 74-73 3.0
    3-0 77-70   1-4 73-74 4.0
    3-0 77-70   0-5 72-75 5.0
               
    2-1 76-71   5-0 77-70 behind 1.0
    2-1 76-71   4-1 76-71 tied
    2-1 76-71   3-2 75-72 1.0
    2-1 76-71   2-3 74-73 2.0
    2-1 76-71   1-4 73-74 3.0
    2-1 76-71   0-5 72-75 4.0
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