Soxbadger

Good show guys. Been a long tiring few years. Time for Americans to focus on our similarities and not our differences. Covid has hammered a lot of people in different ways, lets come together and do right by those less fortunate, no matter who they voted for.

Biden is going to add 4k from Allegheny county soon.

Herman Cain died and his family still posted against covid. A certain part of America doesn't care about covid and even when they get it many still dont care. They care about their small restaurant and family it supports. They see the Dems as why they lost their job. Trump supporters came out huge because covid wrecked their life and its the Democrats fault. Polarizing was good for him.

"Why do I think "good they made the right call?" Because the most important thing to me was removing Donald Trump. His form of "Americanism" is the antithesis of mine. Making sure Trump lost was the primary goal. Right now the conditions for that are favorable. Always look for ways to improve, but be happy with what you get. "No other candidate could have done it?" Who knows, maybe Bernie/Warren whoever could have won. But I believe that Biden presented the best opportunity to win. That is the way that I read the American country right now. I think there were a lot of reasonable Republicans who were done with Trump. Many people think (I didnt even intend to use Trump's phrase.) that Trump makes them look like idiots. A lot of moderate GOP have a lot of pride in America, many of them are educated. I think some of them realized that Trump was a mistake. Are they going to full swing liberal this election? I doubt it. But, im pretty sure the numbers right now show Biden performed better against Trump with non-minorities. Just regular every day people are sick of the carnival show. I think Biden does better than any other candidate with those voters. Could a more liberal candidate possibly have driven new more liberal voters? Maybe but I think unlikely. Biden will get the most votes in history. Its hard to imagine another candidate getting an even bigger turn out. If the more liberal wing of Democrats wants me to back them, they need to show me some wins in MI, WI, PA,. If they start winning in more moderate states or R states, you will see the party back them. "Yes, Biden is going to win, but he's eking out a victory against a consensus bottom-five president in U.S. history. Yes, much of that is due to the outdated electoral college, but nevertheless, the relatively narrow margin of victory is one that I would be embarrassed or at least uneasy about if I were a Democrat, not one that I would be proud of." Beating an incumbent is tough. The electoral college creates a small picture of states that have value. Trump has a lot of votes. That is a lot of support. People could have easily not voted at all and just sat it out. Proud of? I have no part in any of this. I have my beliefs on what I think is the best way to run government. I hope that the world will move that way. When it moves that way a little bit, I am happy. I have no real impact in any of this. Id love if tomorrow I woke up and the world was exactly how I want. But I also know that it may be a really long process. Even the smallest victory is worth more than a loss. TLDR You take even a small win when you can get it.

If we are in a dream world why not just then have Trump claim PA and put the electoral votes on a chart with a black sharpie.

Not even close. Trump is an unique threat to American Democracy. The biggest knock on Bernie is that he would have been too great of a risk against Trump.

Anything is possible in your fantasy world.

Agree to disagree. I think covid drove up GOP numbes huge. Those rural areas hate lockdowns and blame Democrats for it. Thats why (imo) the polling was off. They didnt realize how many people in non metro areas blame Dems for this past year.

Senator Casey estimated about 70k left in Philly. If that is true, Biden probably up about +20-30k.

And this is why Democrats cant have nice things. Instead of seeing an extremely close election where it is hopeful that the Democrats barely beat one of the most Anti-American Presidents of all time. We want to argue that if only we had been *more* liberal we would have some one done better. Do you really think that there were all these ultra liberals hanging out in Georgia, Florida, Texas, NC who only would have voted if there was a more liberal candidate?

Not a good chance. Just that no one should get ahead of themselves and that its possible it could swing back.

Of course, but counting all votes means all votes. Military votes count too.

Biden could go ahead and then drop behind in a few days. There are still military ballots to be counted and they are generally allowed to come in later.

I dont think its fair to say Americans could have done something. Dems likely will win the popular vote by millions of votes. Hopefully some Republicans are reasonable and bring back normalcy. We do better when we work together.

Also that doesnt mean Trump "stole" the election. Americans still bear responsibility for going to the polls and voting for him. Sometimes in sports their is a bad call or whatever, but you gotta play through it.

You would be correct. He said that all of the states were run by Democrats.

Trump said that the Democrats in GA are the reason that the vote is going against him. Implying that the someone how the GA election process is being run by GOP.

I for one applaud Trump in his attempt to completely burn the GOP to the ground. That damn Democrat GA governor and SOS. SUCH BAD PEOPLE.

CNN GA: Trump 49.4% 2,445,539 Biden 49.3% 2,441,904

If Trump worked with the Russians it isnt "stealing" an election. That is Trumpspeak.

Trump 50.2% 3,238,057 Biden 48.5% 3 ,131,077 Donald Trump 50.2% 3,238,682 Joe Biden 48.6% 3,137,658 That is the movement in the last PA update. Trump got 610 votes, BIden 6,000.

Dont forget that a lot of us are all "Philly" fans right now.

I never want to get ahead of anything, but death by a thousand cuts is somewhat fitting.

Im not sure hell run in 4 years, but he can definitely cause a GOP civil war over the next 2.

I like this one better: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pFOyR6dSoAjqSe6miIAnxUaQUIlc2cy8lybg-gWw-_I/htmlview?