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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) Smirk or not, it is true. lol What? Indiana hasnt been as relevant as MSU or OSU. When was the last time they won the Big 10? They were the joke of the Big 10. The only target they might have had was the target of "If youre one of the competing Big 10 teams you cant get upset by Indiana if you want to win the Big 10 title." Maybe because you live in Indiana and you hear from people in Indiana about how important they are. But from an outside perspective, no one has considered beating Indiana an accomplishment for a long time.

I really dislike Crean. I cant even name another coach that compares.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 11:33 PM) What did he say, I missed it. Just so I can quote him Im going back on my dvr: Katz said: The target is going to be on Indiana's back this season. Crean: The targets big, thats the way it is when your at Indiana. There are just a few programs in the country where it doesnt matter what your record is or what the standings are. Guys come to Indiana for that. ----------------------------- Add his arrogant smirk and he is possibly the least likable person in the world.

I cant stand Crean. Youre the #1 team, its not some mythical "Indiana is so special". Youre school rushed the court the last time they beat Wisconsin, maybe have a shred of modesty.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 11:23 PM) Strangely enough, I thought Georgetown got away with a ton of fouls in the first half and first part of the 2nd. May have just been the way it seemed because of the Hoyas length, but they reached in and deflected the ball a lot. The difference in FT's has everything to do with style of play and Georgetown fouling to put IU on the line. I think both teams slapped a ton and there could have been a million foul calls. The bigger issue was when the fts were 10-1, even though both teams had the same amount of fouls. That is just very unusual, to have the same amount of fouls, but 10x more fts. I felt a few times Zeller was given the benefit of being "POY" candidate on both offense and defense. Georgetown has no one to blame but themselves, they could have gone for the win, but didnt. Im not going to make excuses for Georgetown, they had their shot, they didnt take it.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 11:20 PM) Numbers are deceiving. Only 8 fouls difference between the two teams as of 39.4 seconds to go. And G'town has fouled at least 3-4 times to put IU on the line. IU played a lot of zone in the first half. No shooting fouls as a result as G'town shot a bunch of 3's and didn't drive to the bucket. I watched the entire game. As I said, whether you think it was good reffing, bad reffing or indifferent, when you are facing multiple guys fouling out, you arent going to win many games that get extended. Georgetown isnt that deep, they needed to steal a win in regulation.

Good reffing, bad reffing, when you have multiple guys on the brink of fouling out, you just go for the win and call it a day.

Georgetown should have gone for the win in regulation. You arent going to win many games when you have 20 less free throws.

Crean is one of the most unsettling coaches that I have ever watched. The guy is just always frantic and pacing.

Sam Dekker is really good. Creighton on Friday should be fun.

The other Texas problem is that I believe big12 changed their agreement so that they own tier 1 rights (like the Big 10) so Texas or anyone leaving gives up their money for a good 10 years or so. Which is why youd have to basically dismantle the Big12, so you could then say the agreement is unenforceable as their is no big12. (You should ask someone in the Big 12 for more information, Id say Heads may know)

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) FSU (and every ACC team) will be on ND's schedule a minimum of 2 out of every 8 years--that's part of the agreement. By the time the ND arrangement takes effect, the 4-team playoff will be here and if there is a year where FSU and ND don't play each other and both go undefeated, they'll almost certainly both make the playoff. I don't know for sure that Texas to the ACC will happen, but I know for a fact that the discussions have occurred. Texas is the school that originally pitched a ND-to-the-Big12 plan just like the one ND ended up taking from the ACC, but ND did not like the fit for all their other sports in the Big 12 and had no real interest in playing games against Big 12 teams other than Texas and Oklahoma. ND ended up taking the ACC deal and has suggested to both Texas and the ACC that they do the same thing. Maybe, but it means that in order to have a chance, they are always going to have to be +1 in the loss column. If it ends with everyone at 1 loss then, the SEC is going to get a bid, the Big10 is going to get a bid and the Pac are going to get a bid. That means there is 1 bid for everyone else. It was a stupid deal for the ACC and I am pretty sure they know it. The problem was they really had no other options. But you need to protect your own, you cant let ND share your spot unless ND is in the ACC. The saddest part is, I believe that if ND goes for the ACC, they dont even have to split the money with the ACC. The Texas idea was back when the Big12 looked to be on the brink. Now that the Big12 is more stable than the ACC, no idea why Texas would make what at best is a lateral move.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 03:31 PM) Right, but ACC football isn't strong enough for a 1-loss team to get into the Championship game, and maybe not even into the 4-team playoff. In a couple years, five ACC teams a year have ND on their schedule, which is going to strengthen the conferences SOS and thus their computer ratings. Plus, half of those games will be home games for the ACC teams which brings a lot of dollar value to the next TV contract. FSU is never getting an invite from the SEC or the Big Ten, so they're either going to stay in the ACC or move to the Big 12, and Texas moving to the ACC makes that decision for them. Instead of looking at this from a ND perspective, look at it from a FSU perspective. What if ND is not on FSU's schedule as they are not 1 of the 5 teams. What if both FSU and ND go undefeated. If you are FSU, do you want to leave it up to the humans to decide if they want ND or FSU? And 5 games, is 2 or 3 per year. That isnt going to dramatically change the negotiation. ND isnt part of the ACC, if they were we would be having a completely different discussion. ND showed how weak the ACC was. The ACC caved to ND, a school that would not even be the richest or biggest school in the Big10. If Texas moved, it would destabilize the Big 12, if Texas does not become a full acc member, I would assume that schools like OU, FSU, K-State, Kansas, Clemson, would have real serious discussions about forming a new conference. How can you stay in a conference that gives out special treatment? My belief is that Texas in the ACC is just not going to happen. Why would a school make less money, play weaker schools and move to a conference dominated by Carolina teams, when its in a conference that makes more money, has stronger schools and is dominated by Texas. Its just an odd argument.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 03:13 PM) Who the ACC gets to replace Maryland will go a long way toward deciding FSU's fate. If they go with a Northeastern school with a weak football program like UConn, then FSU will be booking the next train out of town. If they go with a southern school with a better football program, like Louisville, that makes it more palatable for FSU to stay. Also, I think that a duplicate of ND's deal is still on the table for Texas and the ACC. That would certainly convince FSU to stay. If the ACC adds Louisville I never get to hear another ACC fan tell me how academics are everything to them, so that would be greatly pleasing. As for the second part, I assume FSU hates the ND deal. FSU was THE ACC football power foryears. They dont get ANY special treatment. Yet the ACC let ND legitimately rape them for a few football games? Why would FSU want ND to have a chance at an ACC bid, when ND doesnt even have to really be part of the ACC? That deal is good for the Carolina schools, the exact reason why FSU wanted to leave in the first place. The only reason Texas would have an impact, is it would mean that the Big12 is dead, in which case FSU would have no choice unless another conference forms.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) I recall quite a bit of TX to the B1G talk a couple years ago, though. Granted, that was pre-Longhorn Network. Add in the fact that Texas was almost in the Pac, it just seems like the Big10/Texas deal is dead. Anything can happen, its just Texas is really far away and unless they are going to 20, Texas is going to have no school that is even close. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) FSU and Maryland voted against the penalty increase to leave the ACC when ND joined. To me that says FSU has been looking to jump as well. FSU is in a bad spot. Most would agree there is no chance in Big, leaving SEC and Big12. SEC allegedly has a pact between members of not adding a second school in state (No clemson, gtech or fsu). So they are basically stuck with moving to Big12 but FSU did not believe Big12 was that big of an upgrade over ACC. If FSU leaves ACC, there will be a lot of moves. If they stay in the ACC, the ACC may survive but itll be like the old Big East, no one really cares.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) UNC and Texas to the Big Ten would be far more surprising/shocking than Urban to OSU or Maryland/Rutgers to the Big Ten. Texas at this point yes, UNC not really. There are rumors that many moons ago the Big10 approached UNC and the UNC faculty/admin were interested. Its merely hearsay on my part, so who knows. I think Texas and the Big 12 are going to be proactive and try and nab Clemson/FSU before everything goes to hell. And Im pretty sure the SEC and Big want someone else to be the villain who destroyed the ACC.

The problem for Maryland was that they built on the belief that the ACC would make them money. Unfortunately that conference is stuck in a terrible TV deal and was so weak that it had to offer ND a deal that will ultimately destroy the conference. Hate the big10 or love, you are either in, or you are out. Notre Dame didnt want in, you move on. The Big10 already has 2 to many schools in Indiana (I kid I kid).

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 01:06 PM) I think too much of UNC's identity is wrapped up in their basketball rivalry with Duke, and I don't see Texas giving up the Longhorn Network. I think Texas will either stay in the Big 12 or copy ND and join the ACC for all sports but football but have an agreement to play 5 games a year against ACC teams. Texas isnt going to the ACC. And I cant see why they would want a 5 game schedule against the ACC, when it would be worse than a Big 12 schedule. Duke is likely on the outside looking in. The reality is that Duke should be approaching other conferences about joining as a Basketball/academic school only. I doubt UNC and Texas go to the Big. But I do think that a few ACC teams are looking for better homes.

I assume that is an OSU insider, not a the Northwestern guy who keeps claiming he works at the Big 10 offices.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 19, 2012 -> 10:53 PM) I've never been more wrong about a player than I have about Gabe Carimi. Wow. Just horrific. OSU has a much worse college player starting for SF and he was playable. Gabe looked like I would at times. I feel the same way, which is why I have to believe there is some sort of Bears offensive line curse.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 19, 2012 -> 10:47 PM) For sure...they all suck with the exception of Garza. Its just weird. The whole offensive scheme needs an overhaul. The reality is the bears cant replace every lineman next year, so of all of them, Im willing to give Carimi a shot because Ive actually seen him play well. The rest of the line has never been good ever.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 19, 2012 -> 10:37 PM) Well, you keep backing your boy, I understand. But... 1) Let's not pretend as though NCAA success means anything in the NFL; and 2) This certainly isn't his first poor game. He consistently makes an ass of himself. Hes played less than 1 season in the NFL. He had better complimentary talent when he was at Wisconsin. He may suck, but its not helping how bad the rest of the o-line is.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 19, 2012 -> 10:29 PM) Admit it, Carimi is a BUST 49 games > 10 with the Bears. I thought Columbo was a bust, turns out the Bears have a strange ability to destroy lineman. If the Bears were wrong on Carimi, not much you can do. He won the Outland award, was extremely successful in college at LT. But Im not going to just destroy him because a guy who is breaking sack records had his number.

Coming into the game tonight the 49ers line had given up more sacks then the Bears. Coming into the game tonight the Bears defense had more sacks than the 49ers. Say what you will about those facts, but they are real.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 19, 2012 -> 10:16 PM) It is, but at the same time, they need to learn how to actually block at some point. We can't win anything by running max protect sets all game long. You can do what the 49ers did which is come out with multiple sets in the backfield to keep the defense off guard. You can throw quick passes on first down, you can call plays to take advantage of outside pass rushes. You dont just simply keep lining up and doing the same thing over and over again. QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 19, 2012 -> 10:17 PM) Calling these linemen average is an insult to average NFL football players. Hard for me to rate any of the OL individually when they dont even try to make it difficult to pass rush.