Old Socks
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So why did we trade Carlos?
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Jamie had his career year last season, IMO.
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Larry Walker.
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We had ourselves a big time player who would get the major league minimum and he's gone. Lots of people on this board will be vomiting over that trade in the years to come.
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We gave up a .300 hitter with 30 HR and 100 RBI for a .250 hitter who steals 70 bases. And we need offense. I don't get it. But we kept Anderson and Sweeney, so it could be worse.
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Did anybody pick Anthony Webster?
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Touche'.
By the way, did you guys see the picture of her? It was in the Denver papers. Don't know if it made it out your way.
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Regarding the Dye signing, I certainly don't mind it, but when the 2005 season is over, future injuries notwithstanding, Jeremy Reed will have finished his first big league season, and I feel pretty safe in predicting that he will have put up better numbers than Dye, and he definitely will have a better future than Dye. Dye will cost about $5.5MM in 2005, Reed will cost about $.350MM in 2005. That's a difference in over $5MM. Basically the same difference in 2006. And we would save the $9MM/yr we gave Freddy. With all that money, KW would have been able to attract a couple of very good pitchers. I still hate that trade.
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The trouble is that Frank's successor at DH, Carl Everett, weighs as much as Frank.
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As a group, they have always amazed me.. Forrest Gump said it best. Stupid is as stupid does.
Case in point: The Denny Naegle saga. Now, just signing him to that kind of contract is stupid enough. The year before the Rockies picked him up (2000) he bombed with the Yanks and was traded mid-season to the Reds where he actually won eight games or so. Hence his sudden $50-$60MM value.
It is stupid enough to give him $50MM or so to pitch for five years, but then they gave him a buyout sum to not pitch for them in 2006 of $9MM. WTF is with these GM's? Why do they get themselves into a corner where they all give buy out amounts of millions to not play for them after their final contract year. So the Rockies have to pay Neagle $10MM in 2005 and another $9MM to not pitch for them in 2006.
The obvious answer is that they are playing with someone elses money, but still....
I know the GM's have their conventions. But I would really like to attend a convention of agents and listen to them make fun of the bozos with whom they negotiate.
Jason, are you sure you want to be a member of that fraternity?
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Well if rehab doesn't work he could always sneak off to Vienna...
Now, that's funny.
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If I were running the team, I would offer Maggs arbitration and take those picks. Chances are, he will sign elsewhere anyway, and even if he takes the arbitration route, then we either have an overpaid rightfielder for another year, or he fully recovers and earns his money. To walk away with nothing would be the dumbest thing the organization did since it traded Jeremy Reed and his minimum major league contract.
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Sorry, I missed the medical report, I didn't know he wouldn't be back until 2006.
No one else wanted him? I wasn't aware of that. I thought we brought him up from Nashville, was he out of baseball at some time?
Imagine if the rest of the world worked this way. You want to be in retail sales? Great. Sears drafted you in the 4th round. You must go to Des Moines, Iowa. You must state that the customers in Des Moines are the greatest anywhere. You must have total loyalty to Sears and Des Moines for the rest of your life. If JC Penny wants to pay you more, you must tell them no, that you will remain loyal to the great shoppers at Sears, or else you are a greedy SOB.
Retails salesmen don't have a collective bargaining agreement like baseball players do. Your arguement is futile.
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Then we traded Baines for Sammy Sosa and Wilson Alvarez.
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Forrest Gump said it best: "Stuipid is as stupid does."
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Re: Webster, the prevailing thought is to move young prospects along slowly, and the Sox did that, possibly to Webster's detriment. After they signed him in 2001 he hung around in Arizona, then in year 2 (2002) he was lights out in Bristol, then in his year 3 he was moved to Low A, then last year the Rangers kept him in AA, and now his four years are up and he is available for $50K. When you have a real live prospect, he should be moved along as quickly as possible, and the Sox did that with Sweeney, having him skip Low A in 2004. Four years go by fast. I hope both Sweeney and Fields spend some time in AAA next year.
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It sounds like a lot of you guys are dancing around a race card issue. I see whites and blacks jacking around together all the time. I don't spend a lot of time in clubhouses, but I doubt if they are segregated. And if Bradley or any other player, white or black, becomes a devisive force in the clubhouse, are you telling me that only a player of the same race can straighten him out? Frank Thomas being a father figure but only to young blacks? Maybe I became an idealist in my old age, but, for example, Thomas and Rowand have been tammates for what. 3-4 years, and I would think that they must have had just a few conversations about hitting, with Frank doing most of the talking and Aaron doing most of the listening. All of which really doesn't have a whole lot about to say about whether Bradley should be on the Sox. If he is a devisive force, then you simply stay away.
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I thought he meant "restarted."
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What do you care, remember they are just going to be traded anyway right :rolly
Any day now, unfortunately.
you know Kenny has pressure to do something, and you also know that anyone he talks to is going to ask for Sweeney, Anderson, etc.
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Casey Rogowski and Mike Spidale should be in there.
Hey, Bogie, don't say those guys should be in the top ten with out saying who should be replaced. Otherwise, your post is rather dry.
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I agree with everything you've said. What could have been with that 2003 team. KW does everything he can to put a winner out there, for one reason or another they just don't.
You are so wrong. it's pathetic. No team could have won in 2003 with Koch used the way he was, and who got him for us? KW. Talented team. We gave up great prospects for Everett and Alomar. Did that make us talented?
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Baseball would go ape s*** if someone came along and played both pitcher and some other position, and played both well, AND hit. Just a thought.
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Ah, the YIPS, I'll remember that one
Kinda like Jason, with his grammar.
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I would rather have Uribe at short than Omar.
podsednik: Leadoff man, #9 hitter or benchwarmer ?
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We gave up too much for him, unless the other guy we got contributes big time.