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    Jose Contreras

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    What if the Sox offer up Jose Contreras in a deal.  I know some people like him, but I consider him to have a "bad" contract and if you could get an effective player while freeing up some salary to land yourself one front line pitcher and then another FA starter then I think you'd have to look into that option.

     

    Could the Angels consider a Guillen for Contreras swap considering how they could definately use another starter.  Or would the Orioles consider giving the Sox Julio and Hairston for Contreras, knowing that Baltimore could use pitching?

     

    I know the Sox won't do it, cause they seem to be in love with Contreras but Jose did nothing with the sox that he didn't do in New York.  And that was show that he is an inconsistent pitcher.  He's know different then Jon Garland except he gets paid more and is signed long term, plus he's on the wrong side of 30.

    Jason, He's "know" different???????????????

    Joey Cora

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    His mistakes always seemed to be when he waved Gload in. I don't remember the details, but at the time it struck me as a poor move. Hawk sure likes Joey. But you know that if someone is considering him for mgr, it's partly because he will be cheap.

    Rockies Players Available

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    The Denver Post reported today that the Rockies are shopping both outfielder Preston Wilson and pitcher Bobby Chacon.

     

    Preston Wilson, who had two knee surguries this year, can flat play, if healthy. He has a huge contract that the Rockies had to take when they got rid of Mike Hampton, but the Rocks would probably give him away and pay half his salary, like they did with Walker and will do with Charles Johnson if anyone wants him. I think he is due to make $12MM, which is another testamonial to the stupidity of General Managers in general, but that's another subject. IF his knee is okay, he would supply a lot of offense, good right field defense, and he hustles, and he would put our other overweight outfielder on the bench.

     

    Chacon had a horrible year, yet he has big league stuff. He is second year arbitration eligible, and the rocks think he would command $3MM or so, and they need to get rid of him. If used correctly, he is a lot better than some of the guys we used this year.

    Keith Foulke

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    I think Kenny should be villified for that trade. Foulke was better than Koch, and then Kenny made it worse by giving Koch a $12MM 2-year contract. We traded Foulke, who was better and signed, for Koch, who was worse and unsigned. I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now. I always thought that Kenny was pissed at Foulke for being out-negotiated (in Kenny's eyes) by Foulke's agent, and he wanted to get rid of him. Trading him created a hole in the bullpen, and he filled it with a guy who couldn't get anyone out. I know Foulke had a few bad games in early 2002, but he was very effective in the last part of his final season with us. Heck, Mariano Rivera blew a few games, too. I am all for villifying Kenny. For that trade, for the Ritchie trade, for the embarrassing Berry/Barry trade, for the Everett fiasco, and probably for trading Jeremy Reed, although we must wait a year to be sure on that one. Ritchie killed the Sox in '02 and Koch did the same in '03. No one would have won with those guys pitching for them. They were both the product of Kenny's misjudgement. Plus he overpaid for guys like Jose, although that transgression is a bit minor on the scale of things.

    Maggs gone-100%

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Arbitration: Why the owners let themselves get painted into that corner is something I'll never understand, and then they had a chance to change it in the last collective bargaining agreement, and all they could talk about was steroids.

    Final Word on the Sox

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    I gotta say.......or ask......how much intelligence does it take to write an article like that.? Why is it posted here? How do these guys get their jobs? What does that guy do at night after he writes that small-minded crap? He can't possibly tell his wife or significant other how smart he is, can he? I feel dumber when I read stuff like that.

    The Most Annoying Sports Announcer?

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Wait a minute - is this supposed to be in green. It was Fisk who stood up to Deon Sanders. After Sanders popped up and just stood in the box, Fisk said run the f***ing ball out you piece of s***. You had to supply the cuss words from the quotes in the paper, but there is absolutely no doubt, it was Fisk.

    Wrong. Well, partly wrong. Fisk did exactly as you said in the regular season. McCarver stood up to Sanders in the clubhouse when the Braves were celebrating a playoff victory. Earlier in the series McCarver had rightfully criticized Sanders for lack of hustle and poor defense, and Sanders tried to get back by dumping water on McCarver as he was interviewing other players. He did not do it playfully. After the third time, McCarver called him out on live TV and challenged him to "fight like a man" right then and there. I have liked McCarver ever since. Sanders was and is a jerk.

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