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The biggest question isn't whether they make the ALCS, it's whether they win the ALCS.
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2 hours ago, Paulie4Pres said:
So a 4 or a 5 is a star in your mind? What?
Maybe I wrote it poorly. I thought it was pretty obvious I was saying I think he's going to be a star, but due to his velocity, it's safer to predict he'll be a 4 or 5.
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Pretty easily .500 by June.
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I will go out on a limb and say that Thorpe is going to be a star. I've watched all the footage I can find on him and his ability to miss bats while throwing 91 is the most intriguing thing I've seen out of a prospect in a long time. Odds are that he's a 4 or a 5, but I think his change is so devastating that it won't matter.
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9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
So then there's basically zero point to any sports message board...since it's nearly impossible for anyone to "prove" or validate their credibility, ultimately. Unless they actually work inside the industry.
Got it.
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm giving my opinion. That's the only point of a sports message board. None of our opinions actually matter and none of our opinions are valued by anybody who does matter.
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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:
Let's see back in 2014-15 the evidence that you were forecasting him as a future star lol...why didn't they or anyone else listen to you? You scouted him at Berkeley?
You could have sent a resume like WDWF supposedly did to JR every summer and secured yourself an internship. Maybe even a paid one.
Why didn't anybody listen to a random nobody like me posting on a tiny message board? I don't know, Caulfield.
I told you to start making sense.
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1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:
3-22 teams operating like the White Sox currently are operating, are not living in reality. I'd much prefer watching Fletcher put up a .650 OPS than watch Otega put up a .680 OPS. Like you say,, it's probably really unlikely, but Fletcher has a better chance of being able to help the next average White Sox team than any of these dopes Getz is bringing in. This season is already toast. Don't get rid of mediocre young guys for mediocre old guys.
They might want him to work on a specific part of his game that won't improve while he's overwhelmed at this level.
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3 minutes ago, fathom said:
I get that most of these are inconsequential, but the scary thing to me is how nearly every move he’s made fizzled out incredibly quick. His whole “defense will help pitching” plan has been a complete debacle. He came into the season with zero depth as well. And yes, there’s absolutely a chance that Mena never adds velocity and also fizzles out, but I think we all know that the Sox were never going to get the most out of his arm. That should concern all of us.
The Cease trade looks pretty amazing so far. Other than that, these are all really minor moves. We have no MLB assets.
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4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Give one example of a player evaluation that you have EVER been right about...?
Yeah, thought so.
Marcus Semien.
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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:
So why not just let Merkin and Reifert and Boyer run SoxTalk?
Sounds like the only way to get some real objectivity around here.
Just focus on trying to make sense for once.
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5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:
I fully expect Montgomery to be called up any day at the rate we are going. Look it is one thing to sign vets as place holders so as to NOT rush players, but the fact that other kids (no matter how marginal, they have a better chance at future value than Rafael Fucking Ortega does) are getting released to make room for this trash, that is a problem. When you KNOW you have no present value, you stop worrying about present value. You start worrying about your future value. Trading a low level guy for a lefty specialist, and then releasing him two months later to make room for a guy who has no future with your team is just stupid. Now you have blown through two potential future pieces (again, no matter how small those odds are) for a guy with no future at all. Why? So you can lose 105 games instead of 110? JFC how stupid can this franchise be?
I don't think you're wrong, but the majority of these moves are completely inconsequential.
If he traded Montgomery for some serviceable MLB players so that we could win 60 games, then I would be irate. These other moves really don't matter.
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1 minute ago, fathom said:
From what I heard, some of the smarter teams in baseball were interested in him at the deadline and during the offseason. Don’t forget that a lot of other teams didn’t care about the performance of Sox players last year due to awful environment and defense.
From what you heard? I respect your opinion man, but you're a message board poster.
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1 minute ago, fathom said:
I just don’t understand what they saw in Fletcher. Limited power, limited speed, can’t hit lefties at all….is this really the corner outfielder you want to give playing time for the next 3-4 years? If they thought Mena was never going to throw hard enough, that’s fine to trade him, but it sure seemed like they put too much value on someone they could play right away. Anyone with a brain knew this team wasn’t contending this year.
The Sox obviously value velocity less than other teams. Pitchers routinely lose a couple MPH when we acquire them. You care about velocity more than anyone in this site. That's why it makes no sense for you to cry about Mena.
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Just now, caulfield12 said:
Wasn't Mena at 93-95 more recently?
Sounds like you are talking about Thorpe.
Adults are talking. Go stalk some Padres.
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5 minutes ago, fathom said:
Then why was Thorpe the main trade chip back for Cease? Can’t have it both ways. I also happen to think Mena has more in the tank.
You're the one that talks about nothing but velocity, not me.
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7 minutes ago, fathom said:
Sox went for quantity over quality. Other teams were absolutely interested in him, but Getz used it as a trade to fill roster spots at the big league level.
Yeah, teams really wanted a LH reliever with a 6.9 era over 59 innings. I'm sure Getz phone was ringing off the hook.
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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:
Not freaking panic during the first four weeks of a rebuild?
Panicking would he calling up Schultz, Montgomery and Thorpe and then trading Robert DFA'ing Horn is not panicking.
Besides, if you're going to panic, starting 3-22 seems like a decent time to start
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10 minutes ago, fathom said:
Don’t trade one of your best pitching prospects for a 26 year old, light hitting platoon outfielder
Mena is a RH that throws 92 and has inconsistent command. Of all the people on here that shouldn't care about trading a kid that doesn't throw hard, it should be you.
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3 minutes ago, Rusty said:
Not with +32 year old guys that can’t hit and…in a lot of these cases, apparently play defense or run the bases. If you think Getz is doing even a remotely competent job as GM so far, or as Director of Player Development (for what you, yourself termed one of the worst systems in the league), I’ve got some oceanfront property in Montana to sell you.
He turned a bad farm system into a top 10 system while trading 1 real asset - Cease. I don't think he's done a good job. I also realize he has very little to work with.
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Just now, fathom said:
Wasting 4 million on one of the worst players in baseball was a really bad idea. The Braves trade sucked as well, as they didn’t get a single interesting piece.
The Braves trade wasn't interesting? We traded them Aaron fucking Bummer. What did you expect?
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6 minutes ago, Rusty said:
Anything other than make them worse? Like are you serious? Anything other than DFA prospects in their mid 20s to bring up below average hitters in their 30s? Anything other than assemble a lineup that is so historically bad offensively that they are forced to play the DH in the outfield 25 games into the season? Anything other than go into opening day with a 4 man starting rotation headlined by a reliever that has never pitched more than 76 innings in a season? Anything other than retain the worst manager in MLB after a 100 loss season? Anything other than trade a Mena for a guy that you send down before May? You mean things like that? Stop being obtuse. It’s currently on pace to be the WORST TEAM EVER ASSEMBLED IN MLB HISTORY!
What prospects did he DFA? Bailey Horn isn't even top 30 in our farm.
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4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
Let pieces of the future play, along with some vets, rather than a team full of 30+ scrubs that have no future with the org. Its stupid. And that is coming from one of the more positive posters around here.
Yeah, so he can be blamed for rushing prospects. That makes sense. It would be criminal to introduce your solid prospects into this s%*# show.
He could keep Colas and Sosa up, but it's pretty clear there's something wrong with Colas' attitude and Sosa screams AAAA. Either way, it's doubtful they're difference makers.
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5 minutes ago, Capn12 said:
Step 1 - NOT try to get a bunch of 35+ marginal at best MLB players, more time towards their MLB pension?
You have to fill a roster.
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5 minutes ago, fathom said:
Like seriously, how is there not more concern about how bad Getz seems to be at this job?
He inherited a historically bad major league team with a bad farm system, a historically cheap owner and 2 valuable assets - Cease and Robert. What's he supposed to do?
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4/26 Games
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Come on. Ramos is a better prospect than Colas and Sosa. He'll get the Vaughn treatment, then everyone will cry that he was given too long of a leash.