NorthSideSox72

There really isn't anyone in the Sox system not on the 40-man roster that I'd be concerned could go in the major league portion of the draft. There are some AA guys who I could see going in the AAA phase (Thompson and Jacobs, as well as Wilkins, Black and a few others), if they aren't on the AAA reserve list. But I'd imagine all of them are on those large reserve lists, so I don't see it happening anyway.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 06:33 AM) Maybe if they were contending, but on a rebuilding team I imagine his locker room presence is more negative anything. If they were contending, or if there was some stud catcher in the minors who appeared to need just another year or two to be ready... then yeah, AJ makes sense. He makes nearly zero sense for this team, though I suppose it is worth considering if he were willing to sign for super-cheap (like $2M or something).

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 18, 2013 -> 07:48 PM) I think Sox ownership can swing such expenditures for a bit and be alright. 1. You are just trolling at this point. 2. Why don't you say what you actually mean - that you think the team should forgo having any profit, and take on some new debt, to increase payroll. At least then you'd be honest. QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 18, 2013 -> 09:11 PM) Which is probably the best reason that you DON'T have a billion dollar asset. Precisely.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 05:45 AM) Thought you meant the reliever and I was terrified for a moment. Well, he is a reliever, but not the one you are thinking of, haha. This guy is a converted infielder, much like Salvador Sanchez. Signed a new minor league deal recently. Pitched for Charlotte last season, put up pedestrian numbers.

With the AFL over, this is our remaining active baseball. Carlos Sanchez and Andy Wilkins both doing well in VWL. So is Nestor Molina. Jacob May doing pretty well in Australia, DeMichele doing OK but showing power down under. Leury Garcia leading all of DWL in SB's, he's 9 for 9. Dan Black doing Dan Black things, leading his team in HR, BB. Tony Pena Jr looking good too.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 18, 2013 -> 05:01 PM) According to Forbes, they usually make between $10 million and $20 million a year, so if it is $10 million that is being argued about, if they did add it, I don't think any checks would bounce. Oh come on, you work in accounting, right? That is net income. There are shareholders involved, and that is a pretty small margin as a %, so you can't cut it in half or by 100% and expect that to go over. They have a simple model, and the flexibility goes plus/minus into net income after player-related payroll, and that is estimated based on all other predictable cost.

It should also be noted that when Forbes values a team... say the White Sox at $900M or so... they are NOT using book value. This is not assets minus liabilities, or even just naked assets. It is valuation to market, meaning, what is the team WORTH, which is assuredly much more than their net book value. You cannot spend money that something is worth, that you do not have. So Marty's argument is even more silly than it seems on its face. Not only can a company not spend money based on it's accounting value, they CERTAINLY can't spend money it MIGHT generate if it sold itself.

1. What Jerry Reinsdorf the individual has financially is irrelevant to the team's budget. 2. The valuation of the team as a business has next to nothing to do with what money they can or will spend.

DeMichele doing a Dunn imitation, somehow posting a 700's OPS while hitting under .200. Jacob May looking decent down there.

Heh. If anyone wants the bitter, Larry version of an AFL review, you can read his article here. That is one angry dude. I think he fashions himself as a sort of Keith Law of the White Sox system. But without the sense of humor.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 18, 2013 -> 01:51 PM) Also, I could be wrong, but didn't both of them have significant leg injuries that sapped their formerly elite speed? Mitchell yes, though supposedly his speed is back to normal now. De Aza I don't really know his injury history, don't recall off hand.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 18, 2013 -> 01:45 PM) Yeah, he seems like his ceiling could be very similar to what De Aza is right now. Different profile. Mitchell has similar power, but will hit for a lower average, while walking a lot more. Also Mitchell, when healthy, has better speed. And even through his offensive struggles, his defense has been cited as being very good in CF. If Mitchell can hit for a reasonable average, with the rest of the tools he brings, he could be better than De Aza overall. but that hitting for average part is a big question mark.

In terms of White Sox minor leaguers, the FS account follows basically all of them (that have accounts). The two that stick out as being entertaining, for me, are Micah Johnson and Scott Carroll. Both pretty damn funny. I'd recommend a follow on those.

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QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 05:51 PM) Saw Black tweet this article earlier today and I finally had a chance to read it. Gotta feel sorry for the guy, he obviously has worked his butt off and it's highly unlikely he's ever going to see the majors in a White Sox uniform. I wonder if another team will take a chance on him in the Rule V? Since he was at AA and hasn't played in AAA... if I understand the rules correctly, he is eligible for the first two levels of the draft. The major league portion (which requires a 25 man roster slot), he's got no chance of being drafted. But the AAA portion (requires AAA for full season), I think there is a chance he gets picked. As for making the majors, while his chances are slim, they're not quite zero. As noted in the article, there are scenarios that could see him in Chicago in 2014 - specifically if Konerko isn't around, the team is bad, and Dunn is traded mid-season. If Black rakes in Charlotte, in that scenario, he could be promoted.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 01:07 PM) Montas is supposed to be a raw, big arm, correct? Yeah, Jason Parks (BP) referred to his fastball as a "mother****er" pitch.

So FanGraphs and BP lists are out. BA is Jan 6th, FutureSox will be in January as well. We may also do a comparison article looking at the lists together.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 04:42 PM) He then became a registered lobbyist, Fox News contributor, joined a private equity firm, and also registered as a lobbyist on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce. So yeah, he really cared about none of that. What an odd leap to make. Why can't he dislike the polarization in the Senate, but still want to be involved in politics? Just not as a Senator? QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 09:48 AM) Your analysis is foolish. I wondered why you love Huntsman so much, then I recently discovered that he is very active on MSNBC (I believe some of his family even works there). NorthsideSox72, rather than watching MSNBC all day and parroting DNC talking points and ranting about the Republicans, put the remote down... read a book, perhaps do some charity, anything will be better than what you are doing. You need inner peace. Anyways, here is the real Converservative comparison between Huntsman and Reagan 1) Patriotism: Conservatives like to consider themselves patriotic. Loony Huntsman on the other hand is an extremist. When asked about Americans losing their jobs, he started speaking Chinese and bragging about how China is superior and that he goes to China all the time. That is not patriotism. Reagan was a beacon of patriotism. America and Apple pie. 2) Religion: Most "Conservatives" are religious within a framework of what is the current norm. That's pretty much a standard of "conservatives" everywhere; they want to conserve the way things are. Huntsman is a member of what many would consider a loony outsider cult. That certainly isn't conservative. Reagan stated that he believed in what is the religious norm in America at the time (Christianity). A conservative move. 3) Taxes: Conservatives support lower taxes, Reagan sure did. Huntsman wants to increase taxes on the middle class. This one is a no-brainer on who is more conservative. Reagan wins this round easily. 4) Immigration: Reagan did give out Amnesty, which is not conservative. Huntsman wants to replace U.S. workers with overseas guest workers. But what Reagan did is a more conservative move in comparison, Huntsman is just loony on immigration. Reagan wins again. I could go on, but I won't. I think you know I'm right Haha, this is awesome. I love mr_genius.

Our interview with Dan Thought he offered a nice glimpse into the Dominican League, and his hitting approach as well.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 09:54 AM) Reagan basically used the military budget to stimulus his way out of an economic crisis And push the Soviets over the cliff in the process. Taken together, that may have been the best thing he did as President. But it is really not a "conservative" method, since he was spending a ton of government money. Furthermore, he also dramatically increased spending on roads and infrastructure, as well as block grants to the states. He did a bunch of things that are often characterized as liberal policies.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) Sure sounds like he surrounded himself with incompetent people... Less about incompetence, more about morally wrong. Bush was incompetent as a leader.

Also, BP's org T10 for the White Sox comes out Friday, from Jason Parks.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 04:58 PM) I put together my own prospect list recently, based on a three-pronged, highly scientific, criteria of potential impact, combined with perceived likelihood of overcoming development issues and making it to the show, combined withy my excitement level in following their progress. It also contains a bias towards pitching, based on decades of horrible position player development. I'm putting EJohnson, Semien, Webb, Abreu and the Garcia's as non-prospects, expecting most or all of these to be on the opening day roster. 1. Danish 2. Beck 3. T. Anderson 4. M. Johnson 5. Hawkins 6. Tr. Thompson 7. Barnum 8. Bassitt 9. M. Adolfo 10. J. May 11. Snodgress 12. C. Sanchez 13. B. Ortiz 14. B. Jacobs 15. J. Olacio 16. J. Petricka 17. A. Lopez 18. A. Engel 19. S. Ayala 20. K. Hansen 21. M. Jaye 22. J. Cose 23. R. Ravelo 24. K. Walker 25. J. Mitchell (due to AFL performance ONLY), replaces Santos Rodriguez Fundamentally, I believe that the SPEED TOOL will be soon be valued much greater than it is currently (will start a thread on this soon, I know you're happy for me), and dare I say that our frequently obtuse and dysfunctional org may actually be ahead of the curve in this regard. Thus, my "crazy high" placement of Micah, but don't let that stop you from flaming away. Interesting. By the way, all those guys you mentioned as non-prospects (EJohnson, etc.), are technically still prospects by definition, except Avisail Garcia.

If you have an Adopt-A-Prospect prospect thread in that forum, now is a good time to do your offseason updates on them.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) Not necessarily. It's speculated they want McCann pretty badly. The risk of Salta accepting the QO could have thrown the whole plan out the window. Also, there is no such thing as universal value-to-team. Any given player has different value to different teams. Salty happens to fit the White Sox' needs well, but let's say some other team has a competent LHH backup that hits righties well - that immediately, all else equal, makes Salty less valuable to them than the White Sox. Whether or not Salty is "worth" $14.1M depends on the team that would be paying it.