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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:59 PM) It's cool Would hate to see Wickman in the ASG over Cliff, but it's not like I wouldn't understand why. I just hate Wickman. And Politte has probably been the best reliever in the majors this year, all things considered. That's why I feel he should go. He won't go, because middle relievers are underly appreciated by most, and he also won't go because Francona is a homer and will have Timlin go instead. Middle relievers in MLB = Kickers in NFL????

I dunno but I put my timer to start the game at 6:00 PM on channel 639. Will it work? We'll see. I'll try all channels!

Schmidt has more control than Zito IMO and that slurve is sickening. Zito hangs too many pitches for me to like him in the Cell. Besides, Scmidt would look too awesome in a Sox uni!

2 losses to the Scrubbies and now we're gonna ge tswept by the Tiggers???? Man, I didn't know that the morale of 2500 Sox fans could sink so low so quick!

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:52 PM) alright. jerry's final thought: you guys believe that since cliff politte has awesome numbers as a middle reliever, he should go to the all-star game i believe that a closer with a sub-3 era who leads the league in saves is more deserving, despite the fact his era and whip are higher. i consider the 21 of 24 in save opps are more important. that's just my opinion. i got nothing but love for you all. peace, love and white sox baseball. I don't know how to respond...

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:52 PM) This argument is even more true considering this current team. With Cliff being able to keep the opposition at bay the Sox have come back so many times in the late innings. But Wickman leads the league in saves with his 2.80 ERA!

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:49 PM) He also pitches in the greatest pitchers park in the American League. If he has bad numbers there then I would hate to see what he does at the Cell. I will pass on Zito. Exactly. He already has a pretty high ERA. How much would it influx with the Cell as his home.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:49 PM) did i say that? But their closers so they are obviously better!

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:48 PM) yes, you can. but that's only when the tying run is on deck. you can't just start an inning with a five-run lead and get a save. Talk about contradictory!

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:46 PM) It seems now that you're focusing in on one guy (Soxfan1) and ignoring the other solid arguments being stated. Trying to exploit the young'n.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:44 PM) jesus. pitching without the lead is more important than pitching with a one-run lead in the ninth? come on man. stick to the stats argument. and you don't get saves for coming into a game with a four-run lead. Uuuum, yes. You can get credited with a save for up to a 5-run lead buddy. I've seen it done.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) So in your mind this year: Foulke> Politte because he closes games and cliff doesn't. Yup, Octavio Dotel, Mike McDougal, Ugueth Urbina are all better than Politte too!

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) well, your argument was "I quit" another good argument i got before was "WICKMAN?!?!?! WICKMAN?!?!?! WICKMAN?!?!?!" sorry guys. your arguments got me. I quit is not an argument. :banghead :headshake

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:41 PM) he leads the al in saves. he has an era of 2.80. he's 21 of 24 in save opps. he pitches much more meaningful innings than politte. sorry if i failed to mention that. Pitching w/o the lead and holding the opposition > Pitching with a 1-4 run lead and getting 3 outs.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:40 PM) yep, all he does is close games. that's not important. pitching well in the 7th and 8th -- now that's what really counts. you got me. a fantastic argument. So what...your pitcher throws 6 shut-out innings with a high pitch-count...now what? Are you gonna magically sklip the 7th and 8th to get to your closer?

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:38 PM) lol thank god. you're 15. no wonder you can't follow. pack up your desk and get out! Hold the f*** on. How can I not follow? At least I back my s*** up. All you got to say is that he is not a closer yadda yadda yadda. It's funny how sometimes the older person needs to grow up. Man...

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) I really hope BMAC wins on wednesday. If he starts showing signs of his potential it can do 2 things: 1. Increase his trade value. 2. Solidify his spot in the rotation for years to come. I can possibly see Beane making a move for BMAC and KW has always talked highly of Barry Zito. I can see a Zito for McCarthy and another prospect at the trade deadline. The A's have a club option for Zito for the 2006 season and with the looks of things- Beane wants to go in a different direction. Beane has been focusing on solidifying a new young nucleus of starting pitchers and adding BMaC would improve there young nucleus. My prediction: Barry Zito- the newest member of our Chicago White Sox come July 31st! Write that down. Oh please no. Hanging curveballs in the Cell = HighER ERA

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) huh? let me speak slowly you think cliff politte SHOULD be an all-star i think heidi klum SHOULD have sex with me cliff pollite WON'T be an all-star heidi klum WON'T have sex with me i'm sorry if i threw anyone off there with that. :headshake I quit.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) my point is, when shingo was crapping the bed, and politte was so awesome, why didn't we turn to him to close full-time? Because Hermy stepped it up before Politte did. It was a toss-up at that point. Politte, Hermy, or Marte. He put Hermy in 1 game, he dominated, and it stuck.

QUOTE(Kogs35 @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) its channel 639 on directv Thanks...

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) if he was as good as you claim he is, he would be closing games. it's so hard debating things with people who are 17 and would rather let someone f*** their girlfriend as opposed to letting the cubs win the series over the sox. So just because he is not a closer, he is not deserved. Politte > Wickman. PERIOD. Just because he has saves, he is better??? NO. Besides, why put him at closer when you have someone else doing a more than ample job in Hermy???

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) i lost what? don't be an asshole junior. it's a f***ing debate over cliff politte, he shouldn't and won't be an all-star. You said it yourself. Cliff Politte not Heidi Klum....you lose!

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) BMAC is starting on Wednesday. Dur. Forgot about that. Welcome to the Sox Jason!

QUOTE(LauraJ14 @ Jun 28, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) Am I breaking some type of copyright laws if I videotaped the into on my camcorder? Isn't that called Piracy???