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QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:53 AM) Nah they dont want to kill us yet, but clearly the current administration and the past few before it have had a real lust for indefinitely detaining us. Have other countries with stronger gun control laws than the US done similar things to their citizens? If not, isn't that a blow against "guns protect our other rights?"

agreed

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:48 AM) Yes you do, I mean I'm reading it right now. The State = God. Were all powerless to stop it and instead of resisting it we should accept it into our lives. Its f***ing religion dude, stop deluding yourself. Go organize a militia and attack some federal buildings about it. Until then, you're not resisting s***.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:49 AM) What's going on in Mexico isn't genocide, but its pretty violent either way. Japan banned guns before they went on a warpath across East Asia slaughtering everything in sight. so...banning guns doesn't lead to genocides and bringing up Nazi Germany's gun bans were pretty irrelevant then, right? Japan banned guns in their own country (cite?) and then went to war with other countries. What's the causation there? That the US will go to war with other countries once we ban guns? That those other countries won't be able to defend themselves and will be slaughtered if there's a domestic US gun ban?

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:45 AM) You know what, keep worshipping the state. If that's what makes you feel better about your dim views then go right ahead. See where it gets you when you give them a sole monopoly on the use of force and they turn around and f*** you harder than you thought possible. You talk about them like they're God. Like they chose who lives and dies and who gets what; like we have no control over our own lives becuase why would we? That's what the government is for. Its pathetic, but its right in line with your wimpy views on providing mental health and feeding welfare $$$ into the south side warzones. I can only imagine what it would be like if any of you actually had to resist something or display any token amount of personal responsibility. Unprincipled losers, it pisses me off just thinking about you. "a troll should not act more angry and unhinged than the response he hopes to provoke." -trolling grandmaster kong fuzi

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) UH OH HE BROUGHT UP SLAVERY, I MUST BE WRONG. The Nazi's took guns away in the 30's, then went on the slaughter the Jews. Sorry dude, but the Holocaust in the caboose on the liberal pity train, you cannot top that one. The Nazis also built the first real interstate-style highway system. Clearly, they are just another part of the plot! On the other hand, I haven't seen any genocides in Australia, the UK, Canada, Japan, Mexico etc. since they've enacted gun control legislation or gun bans.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Civil f***ing War... the government has been viewing armed Americans as a threat since day 1. It worries them, which is a good thing. A see a whole bunch of dead people killed by the Federal government in that list. If your defense of the 2nd is that it enabled a war fought to secure the institution of slavery, lol.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:18 AM) I agree 100%. Alec Baldwin can go f*** himself and fly privately if he can't go 15 minutes without playing Words with Friends. If there's really not any actual risk, what is the point of the rule? Why should it remain in place?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:13 AM) Why is the speed limit 65 or 75 or 70? Why can't it be 55 or 85 or 95? It's 55 on most of the highways around here

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:29 AM) Government needs to be afraid of us. The government isn't afraid of you and never has been. They stamped out a rebellion in the 18th century only a few years after "the government" existed.

The 7th Circuit very recently overturned Illinois total CC ban and told them to re-write something that's Constitutional. There was some discussion in the Republican Thread. It was the week before Sandy IIRC.

duke has explained earlier that he thinks we'd be under a tyrannical government if not for the 2nd Amendment.

The point is to reduce gun violence. We don't enact laws against murder because we believe they'll actually eliminate murder.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) It's just reached a point where you're posing The Sheldon Cooper Offensive at this point. As Sheldon put it: You're now engaging in reductio ad absurdum. It's the logical fallacy of extending someone's argument to ridiculous proportions and then criticizing the result. While I do this myself, I think you've all made your point now. There's no reducto, though. The Rep. tried to say that we shouldn't ban guns because credit cards are deadly, too. You can't reduce that to a more-absurd level.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:14 AM) Yea those are all semi-auto, no more lethal than a G-19. They just look scarier. The actual military AK-47, you may recognize it better from the media as a "high powered military grade assault rifle with high capacity clips", is not made in the USA. I mean it can be, but it'd be counterfeit which is illegal... so like since illegal guns would never find their way into America we know for a fact that never happens. nobody says that a total gun ban would eliminate all gun violence, but keep knocking down those straw men and talking about full-auto AK-47's. They're totally relevant.

soxtalk should have a "like" or rep system, so you can "+1" a post or leave a comment to a user without a full-blown PM or a superfluous "yeah!!!!!" post

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:09 AM) Yes, because using a credit card to defend yourself against a criminal with a gun will do wonders. Just hope you and BS never find yourselves in that situation, because if you do...you won't be here to tell us about it. If anything, that dynamite blew up in your face. If you guys can't actually have a meaningful conversation, don't have one. Because all the bulls*** you've added to the conversation as of late is just that...absolute nonsensical bulls***. ...you do realize the BS was mocking the pro-gun argument that some Republican rep. made that "anything can be a weapon, even credit cards!" right? Because we keep hearing about how, on the one hand, this type of gun or this size magazine etc. are not especially deadly and look at all the other ways you can kill someone! but then we also hear about how anyone without a gun is defenseless or, more absurdly, how the government would be some tyrannical dictatorship without heavily armed civilians.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:01 AM) Never heard of the AK-47 have you? I'm just fooling, of course you have. You probably just dont know that its not an American firearm. http://www.ak-47.us/USmade.php Anyway, the problem in Central American countries is still largely weapons smuggled from the US, regardless of what other weapons may be manufactured in other places. And there's a lot more handgun violence than rifle violence, so talking about AK-47's that could potentially be smuggled into the US only illustrates how much more difficult it would be to obtain a gun.

These rules are FAA regulations, not airline rules. edit: but even if they were carrier rules, there's no reason we can't criticize them.

Guns are generally smuggled out of the US and into drug-producing countries.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 10:51 AM) Because banning things suddenly just removes them from society right? How's that war on drugs going? Pretty terribly. There's an awful lot of gun violence.

Because then Good Guys, which is a pre-determined and static group, will be able to defend themselves against Bad Guys, another pre-determined and static group.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) It would seem easier to determine that the pilot,s iPad is malfunctioning when it is the only one turned on. Funny we gave up nail clippers and water to fly but not iPads and cell phones. those are also dumb things that shouldn't be used an excuse for other bad policies.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) If people can't shut their damn phones and tabs off for 15 minutes prior to takeoff and landing, then they are certainly welcome to drive or take a boat to their destinations. f*** that, let me read my nook instead of your crappy in-flight magazines or skymall.

my fists are registered as deadly weapons