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QUOTE(aboz56 @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 07:25 PM) I wouldn't consider these guys to be "good" depth. They couldn't contribute at the MLB level so to me they are useless unless Charlotte needs filler for its roster. So you're saying anybody over 25 in the minor leagues is useless? This isn't fantasy baseball, these are human beings and as much as we'd like to think that we can predict the future, we can't. I really couldn't give two s***s about Redding and Farnsworth in the grand scheme of things but the fact is they're solid, they helped CHarlotte to the AAA playoffs(and lost miserably), and both have pitched in the majors before. I'm done with this discussion.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 07:21 PM) I guess Esteban Loaiza has 20 win, sub 3 era seasons as well? Crede doesn't strike out much because he pops the first pitch up. How is that beneficiary to our team? How can you even begin to compare Loaiza and Crede even jokingly. Crede's been with us his entire career and has developed into a legitimate star. I can't believe there's so much Crede hate going on. I could see if it was 2004 but wow.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 06:18 PM) Minor League free agents have almost ZERO incentive to sign into (or stay in) the Sox farm system. We have 10 possible starters 25 or younger at the AAA level arguably better than Redding. Why would he sign here when he can sign with the Nationals, where he is currently their 2nd best starting option? Your upset that our major league team is good enough to make these players want to go elsewhere? get your priorities straight. Why are you turning this into some kind of fight? Stop with the isecurities for a moment. Everything you just said, I KNOW! lol, excuse me for wating the Sox bring in more talent. The deeper the system, the better.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 06:59 PM) Careful, boy. FTat'll see you eat those words a year from now. lol And I can't believe we just had a Kelly Gruber reference.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 06:46 PM) That's what you said. And that was a lie. Besides last season, Crede has never even sniffed 30/100. Yeah seasonS, The fact that he put up those numbers behind Konerko and Dye and sometimes AJ says a lot about his production. Put him in the 3/4 hole asnd he could go 40/120! Okay, THAT"S a stretch. You see, in baseball, as players gain experience, the good ones tend to get better. Crede is one of the good ones. Hate to break it to you but we're not getting Ensberg or Aubrey Huff. I'm sure you're crushed.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 06:37 PM) Joe Crede has never had a 30 HR 100 RBI season and Joe Crede is just as greedy as his agent not that there's anything wrong with that. I said around 30/100. He went 30/94 last season and I can only see him getting better but that's just me.

Crede's a gold glove candidate every year and has around 30 HR 100 RBI type seasons. Not to mention he's clutch as clutch can be. Not to mention he only struck out out 58 times last year 544 at bats! I don't EVER wanna see him compared to Aramis or Ensberg. The main reason KW isn't talking multiyear extension is because Scott Boras is a greedy sonofab**** and he knows he won't be able to afford him with the way the market's heading.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 06:05 PM) How will we ever replace a 31 year old career minor leaguer! OH NOES! Tim Redding too! I'm going to need to be admitted for psychiatric evaluation. lol, be nice. Redding actually had potential. I'm not saying these are HUGE losses, just annoyed that were losing arms for nothing.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 05:54 PM) I had to be taken to the emergency room to have my stomach pumped after I heard the Jeff Farnsworth news. NOT JEFF FARNSWORTH! I'm pretty sure he was our closer last year in Charlotte. And he did a damn fine job I must say. I'm just annoyed that we're losing pitching and not getting anything in return. Tim Redding is gone as well I might add. Another person we got nothing for. EDIT: okay he wasn't that great, 4.76 era and only 14 saves. Still annoyed though.

I'm a little confused, cause I haven't heard about the Sox getting ANYONE. But I did hear we lost Jay Marshall and earlier today I saw that the Phillies invited Jeff Farnsworth to spring training. When did we lose Farnsworth. He better not have been included in the Garcia deal. WTF is going on?

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 18, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) I sure as hell don't see Hawk as a HOF'er. Just one man's opinion, but he is average at best and as far as signature phrases "He Gone" is horrible. It reeks of mediocre homer. Don't hate. Hawk is the greatest of all time. I haven't seen a passion like his since Harry Caray.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 20, 2006 -> 04:20 PM) With Fields getting accustomed to left field in winter ball, is there a chance that he might fill the role in left in 2007? The White Sox won't go into 2007 with Fields and Anderson in there line-up, I happen to think Fields progression this offseason has some bearing on next season's roster. If we don't trade Crede, trade for Crawford or sign any of the top OF free agents, I think it's almost gauranteed that Fields and Sweeney will be plattooning in LF. And don't forget about Pods, you never know.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 19, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) Did anyone ever stop and think that maybe, just maybe, they let McCarthy rot on purpose this year? The reason I say that is because they know he's going to he that good and wanted to keep him on the cheap for one more year... because that way when his current contract is up, he won't get as much simply because he hasn't put up any numbers, save next year? Do you all see what I'm trying to say? I'm not saying it very well. It's a nice, interesting conspiracy. But I think it just had to do with the money they were paying the other 5 starters. No matter how much we begged for it they never put him in the rotation cause our starters were making 7-10 mil each. That's my opinion anyway.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Oct 19, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) It's a bet. Again, nothing against him but I think with the quality of our pitchers and his inexperience, I think he will be at the end of the rotation. (that's odd, I haven't logged in in 4 months and my account got deleted) I agree about McCarthy being at the end of the rotation. The guy's upside is based on one dynamite spring training and a good second half of 2005. Forget about stuff, there's been tons of pitchers in the past with fantastic stuff that didn't make it. I hope he does do good for the sake of the team, but I just don't see it. As far as Ichiro. I love the guy. That's my biggest fantasy deal when I think about guys the Sox could get to improve. But as I go through potential deals in my mind, I just don't think we can get get him unless we give up a whole hell of a lot. He'd have to be pushing hard to get out of Seatle and the M's would have to want to sell. It's not gonna happen, he's their Franchise player, just like a Pujols or a Jeter.