[4/21 Games]

2 hours ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

I liked Eder before his injury, but his command hasn't come back yet and due to age he's approaching non-prospect status pretty quickly. He'll be 26 in October. 

Hopefully he figures it out at some point this year, but early returns aren't looking good.

And this is coming from someone that liked the trade from the Sox perspective. 

Also Burger is hitting .228 with an .281 OBP and a .702 OPS for Miami. Just seems like it might be a nothing for nothing deal. 

Eder could be unbelievable out of the bullpen if they decided to pivot. Too early for that still. 

[2024 - MLB Draft Thread]

 

On 4/18/2024 at 10:09 PM, Timmy U said:

Who do you suppose is in play for 1-1? I would say Condon, Bazzana, Smith, for sure. Cags doesn’t seem like their type. Maybe the high schoolers?  Wetherholt is their type but he’s hurt again. I wouldn’t be surprised if Braden Montgomery is in there too,  Maybe Burns?  Again, he doesn’t seem like their type either.

Joe Doyle has them taking Kurtz at #1 and going significantly under slot. I'd be surprised if they took a pitcher. Probably whichever bat in their mix signs for the cheapest. I'd bet on Bazzana right now. 

[2024 - MLB Draft Thread]

3 hours ago, fathom said:

Law seemed to imply the Guardians will strike an underslot deal

Of course they will. Nobody in this class is worth the slot value at #1. Just depends how much $$ they want to save. 

[2024 MiLB Catch All]

Shoulder 

[4/9 Games]

They are off today. 

[4/6 Games]

16 hours ago, Polar Bear said:

At the same time, heights for prospects are entirely unreliable, especially in the DSL.  For all we know the kid grew 3 inches and is 5'11", he was only 17.  Hell for all we know he is 20 (more of a joke related to the age falsification stuff going on down there).  

Ultimately overreacting to DSL stats are a slippery slope that will get you burned and it seems like futuresox and this board and leaning that way.  I'm just trying to be the cautionary and conservative voice here.

You have to be more conservative with those players than most bc as I said, these are mostly high school juniors, in fact the same age as Wolkow.  

I wonder if Wolkow hits 20 HR in the DSL last year, that would have been a fun experiment to do lol 

We aren’t overreacting to anything at FutureSox. Actually, we have guard rails in place to make sure that we don’t. Where’s your top 30 list? 

[4/7 Games]

Just now, DirtySox said:

Zavala adds a single and a stolen base.

Gonzalez still hitless this season.

Gonzalez does have two walks and a HBP 

[4/6 Games]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You’re right on Wolkow not being ready.  I had seem him on some sort of prelim or developmental roster for Kannapolis, so I was surprised when he didn’t actually make the final roster.  Obviously that’s a good thing for his development, but the meatball is eager to see him in full season ball.

Someone mentioned that Burrowes will eventually be there, which at least gives us one quality positional guy to follow.  Is Calvin Harris hurt?  I didn’t see him on either A ball roster.  But yeah, not much else from the 2023 draft.  And there just doesn’t seem to be a ton of LatAm guys who seem ready.  It’s a bummer that Erick Hernandez has struggled so much (still very young).

Harris is hurt. Not sure how bad. He’ll be primary catcher in Winston. Burrowes should be in Kanny when he’s ready as well 

[2024 - MLB Draft Thread]

18 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Top 6 seem to be Condon, Bazzana, Caglianone, Burns, Smith, Montgomery, and probably Wetherholt if he stays healthy the rest of the way. Sox are going to get a good player. I wonder how they feel about the power guys. Personally I am Montgomery >Caglianone because you know he plays a quality rf.  I am okay kinda with whoever falls to them.

I don't think they'd pass on either pitcher and I'd be pretty surprised if they took Weatherholt or Bazzana from what I've heard. 

[2024 - MLB Draft Thread]

10 hours ago, fathom said:

Please let someone get enamored with Burns and Smith in the top 4

I disagree with this. I’m hoping the Sox take one of them. Need home grown top of the rotation types that the owner will never pay for. 

[4/6 Games]

12 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m actually shocked at how bad it is.  You’d think most orgs would have plenty of semi interesting prospects pushing for playing time in Low A.

Yeah it's not good. Wolkow and the promisingn international class from last year will all start in the ACL on 5/4 though. They've spent so many high picks on pitchers and there's just a lack of talent in their international classes overall which is an issue. The players from the upcoming draft will likely make up the Kanny team in the second half. 

 

50 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Speaking of the Kanny roster, Sox don't even have our # 14 Prospect, George Wolkow, on it.  He played last year in the Rookie League and hit a little bit.  He should be playing.

Wolkow isn't ready for full season ball. He just turned 18. Starting in the ACL is the right call. 

33 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Is Gordon a top 30 prospect for the Sox? I don’t see him on any lists. Should he be?

I don't think he's a prospect. He'll carve in the low minors though as a polished lefty. 

[4/6 Games]

56 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

54 pitches seems a little light to me. Hopefully they can get him up to 80 pitches in a couple of starts.

I was told 4 innings or 65 pitches 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

10 minutes ago, nrockway said:

oh, I thought that was just good practice, didn't know it was an actual rule. Anyway, you may be right, it just seems to me that at this stage of a rebuild, you'd want to take flyers on young players who might show something rather than jettison them. He had a weak first half at AA last year but finished strong, I just think there was time left for him to compete for a spot on the major league team at a position we desperately need to fill

You just can’t have more than 13 pitchers. You can carry 14 position players if you want to 

[Speas traded to Oakland for $$$]

It sounds like Brebbia is hurt. They’ll likely need a starter for Monday as well and I’m guessing it’ll be Brad Keller. DFA Leone to add Keller but the only options to replace Brebbia right now are Berroa and Horn. 

[4/6 Games]

12 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

He's just going to go every Saturday yea? Schultz that is.

Yep. That’s the plan. 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Speas was already rostered.

True. They we’ve needed to add him to 26 man though. 

9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The Sox don't pay him and he shouldn't have told you to f*** off. The team isn't worth getting so angry for by all accounts. 

Nah he deserved it. 

[4/6 Games]

11 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

No word yet on the WS starter?

It’s Schultz tonight for Winston and Lucas Gordon in Kanny 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

2 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Are the White Sox paying you now? This is just ridiculous 

First of all, no. Second of all, f*** you dude. 

2 hours ago, WestEddy said:

How does being able to understand why a move was made, and not becoming irrationally angry over it translate to being Chris Getz, or working for the White Sox? 

9-10 worse teams took a pass on him. A bottom third minor league system took him, and he's their 28th best prospect on MLB.com. The Sox already have better options on the 40-man, and better options right behind him who are progressing in ways that Popeye wasn't. 

Irrational is easy. This thread is a dumpster fire right now. 

1 hour ago, 4OCS said:

You wouldn’t have needed Rodriguez to perform at mlb level. Have Sosa perform at mlb level and get rid of Dejong or somebody, with Rodriguez at AAA. Or same with Speas. Cut Shaw and bring up one of the other AAAA pitchers at Charlotte

Again though, you’d need the roster for one of those pitchers. 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

It is relevant because we lost Rodriguez to get Clevinger.  

Right but if it wasn’t Clevinger, it would’ve been to add Keller or Grossman or someone else 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

22 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

If Philly would rather have him than their own cash, there’s no reason the Sox shouldn’t feel the same about keeping him. 22 years old, how many 22 year olds are still in the Sox system that are complete garbage. At least the guy  actually has a few tools

And those guys don’t require 40-man spots 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Well, this is the same organization that spent months talking about possibly moving Burger to 2nd.

Or we simply pick "average to above average" defenders in their decline stages who can't hit a lick.

 

If everyone thinks it's unwatchable right now, just wait until a time when both Robert AND Crochet are out.

I even wrote a thread last year about the lack of exciting hitters on the team that would excite fans.

That's exactly where we ARE right now with Burger traded away and Robert, Jr., seemingly injured YET again.

 

Seriously, we would have a hard time beating Norfolk more than 50% of the time with the 14th largest payroll in baseball.  Without Robert/Crochet, it would probably tip to 45/55% or even 40/60% against the Sox and in favor of the Tides/Orioles' prospects.

That's borderline unbelievable.

 

It’s the same organization but it’s different people in charge of it. 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

30 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

He was mentioned numerous times after Ramos and Sosa and was at one point in the high teens or low twenties as a prospect.

We either believe in Getz’s OR outside perceptions that there was strong and steady progress in our second and third tier prospects or we don’t.

In the end, it only matters if they make it or not with another organization.

 

The revisionist history always becomes guys like Sosa Colas Rodriguez and Mena were never really legit prospects once they leave the Sox…and we blame Merkin or Boyer for overhyping them when you could only write so many stories about Robert, Hendriks and Burger last year. 

He was for sure. Last year was rough. He’s on the 40-man and the Sox chose Sosa and Shewmake over him. He wasn’t overhyped. He just regressed at the higher levels of the minors. 

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

And what do you think the league thinks Leone & Shaw are worth?

Nothing and I’m quite sure they’ll also be discarded shortly. Which relievers in the org would you like to see in Chicago instead right now? 

5 minutes ago, Quin said:

The league also repeatedly told everyone that Clevinger is worth nothing 

Ok. I wouldn’t have signed Clevinger because it seems pointless. Don’t really think he’s relevant to Rodriguez discussion 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

34 minutes ago, bmags said:

Good lord dude, a guy like Rodriguez should be worth more to the white Sox than cash or a bunch of old ass never wases they kept over him.

Everyone else is right and you are wrong. If it was June, I’d get it. It’s 7 games into the season.

Again, the league just told you what he’s worth. 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

8 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Because it doesn’t matter?  They already played a position player down for three whole games before placing Eloy on the IL and calling up Grossman.

Getz fucked up.  It’s not the first time.

What did he f*** up? 

43 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said:

This team is in no position to lose Top 30 prospects for nothing

He’s barely a top 30 prospect at multiple outlets. There was significant regression on his plate discipline. They didn’t lose him for nothing. They traded him for cash which is what MLB determined he was worth 

[Jose Rodriguez Traded to Phillies for $]

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I feel that you aren’t understanding.  Play a man down in the bullpen in the meantime, just like they did with Eloy.

Why would they go with 12 pitchers though? That doesn't make any sense either.