monomach

I was wondering why everything was so dark around here.

Not sure how you figure that, since our lineup only has 8 hitters right now without him.

Oh, so THAT's why we've sucked. We just had players who wanted to lose. Why didn't I see it before?

Andruw Jones 2009 (extrapolated to 600 plate appearances) 32 doubles, 31 home runs, 81 walks .323 OBP, .459 SLG, .782 OPS Jermaine Dye 2009 (extrapolated to 600 plate appearances) 20 doubles, 28 home runs, 67 walks .340 OBP, .453 SLG, .793 OPS That's not much of a difference. Only .11 points of OPS. I'm not saying it's the correct way to build a team (it's not!), but this may be why Kenny and Ozzie are both saying they're not going to go get a real DH.

I've seen his s***ty stats. I'm one of few who have broken them down here rather than regurgitate the Kenny Williams kool-aid all over myself like you have. ...and Jones' 560 home run season was more or less on par with his other seasons, too.

That's not how it works. Pierre had what was basically a career year (which is still not all that great). Obviously, these things fluctuate. Otherwise, you have to completely ignore Carlos Quentin of 2008 because by that reasoning now he sucks and should be released.

You're both cherry picking one year. If we play that game, Andruw Jones should start because he'll hit 50+ homers.

Here's a Dodger fan who explains some more about how Juan Pierre sucks: http://www.truebluela.com/2009/12/15/12015...ed-to-white-sox

You'd take him over his statistical twins is what you're saying. Does he keep his uniform cleaner or something?

Castillo qalks a LOT more than Pierre. A real comparison would be something like Podsednik or Gathright. Or Willy Taveras.

But he's not a good leadoff man. Neither was 05 Pods. We didn't win in 05 because of Pods. We won because we pitched well and hit a lot of home runs.

One of the leadoff guys you named DOES walk, though. The other one is obviously a statistical outlier. People don't just hit for Ichiro's average every year...except for Ichiro himself.

Bingo. Like I told him...it's like saying that Pujols is only a little better than Konerko.

You're bringing up guys who are twice as good as Pierre. They have nothing to do with Pierre's s***ty walk rate because one of them can hit for a league-leader type of average and one of them can hit for power and actually does walk twice as much as Pierre (in other words, at an average rate). Neither of these players is similar to Pierre in any way. "It's ok for Joe Crede to strike out a lot because Adam Dunn strikes out a lot, too." See?

Those stats show that Reyes is miles beyond Pierre, actually. I'm not sure where you get "not by much." That's a .685 OPS vs a .833 OPS. That's like saying Pujols is better than Konerko, but not by much.