Caesar

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) Since this thread is active, figured I'd get the most responses here: if you could amnesty one contract with the Sox right now, who would it be? 1. Dunn 2.Dunn 3.Dunn 4.Danks

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:35 PM) Put him back in the 2nd spot where he was playing well. Go with this lineup ADA Beckham Rios Dunn Konerko AJ Youk Viciedo Ramirez If he has to be in the lineup, then try that. But I would bat aj 4, youk 5, dunn 6, pk 7, tank, lexi. Give it a try. I know it will never happen and I am gonna get flamed on for having PK batting 7 but it can't hurt.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) Fister was a fluke for them last year. He is not as good as those numbers indicate during that time after he was acquired. If anything he is high 3 to low 4 era pitcher at best That's a good ERA for the AL.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) They've been winning at a .750 clip for the last 3 weeks. Think that'll last? I wouldn't expect it to, but I have no idea. Im more worried about whether our losing clip will continue and how long that will last. I see no signs of them figuring it out with the bats.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) And Escobar has shown he can really hit. Beckham is better than him in every aspect except maybe Escobar runs a little better. He probably is better, but he isn't performing, so try something different. Shake it up. Try to do something to light this teams fire.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) That they are streaky as hell, like for crying out loud Porcello has prolly the highest WHIP in the big league, and they could only muster one run off him. I know this team is capable of more. Porcello owns us this year. Turner is making us look pathetic. Detroit is not overrated.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) I think Ventura will learn from this season how to better mix and match the bench into the lineup. What bench?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) This is a troll type of post. Escobar instead of Beckham? Anyone who really does watch them play would never suggest this. Yeah because Beckham is just lighting it up with his stick.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) Detroit will cool off again, and the Sox will go on a run. You just have to hope it doesn't get out of hand before those things happen. Who knows, maybe Cabrera has a bottle of rum after the game and Fielder has a serious gout attack and they go back to mediocre. Haa haaaaa Yeah, time will tell.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:25 PM) This. Their pitching staff sucks beside JV and defense is bad as well. There's a reason why the season is 162 games. If their pitching sucks, what does that say for our hitters?

QUOTE (C_LEE45 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) BS they have verlander and thats it ,we just cant score now,detriot is overated !!!!!! Porcello shut us down, Turner is shutting us down. Fister is a good pitcher. No way are they overrated.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:19 PM) I've been advocating putting Rios 3rd, but that wouldn't do much to help out since ADA and Youk aren't reaching base. Beckham should be benched, but do you really think Hudson can provide a spark? Not likely Honestly, let Escobar play second. I'm just tired of the Beckham experiment. He isn't mentally tough enough to play at this level. I have nothing to back that up, just my opinion by watching him play.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:17 PM) They're still in the top half of the AL in runs scored. It's simply the fact that we're ice cold now and DET is playing like the best team in baseball. We ran over the Cleveland Indians when they were in a similar position. We were hot and they were cold. Playing 16 out of 19 on the road is suicide. Thursday's game didn't help. But it's not over yet by any stretch of the imagination. Detroit is just better than us. They played way below their expectations and now they are playing like everyone expected. As for us, maybe we played abouve our heads and we are seeing the true 2012 Sox.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) Fire Greg Walker. Its time. Yeah. Maybe it wasn't Walkers fault, maybe its the players Walk had to deal with.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) I have a lot of questions about how Ventura has handled things for a few weeks now, but no manager in baseball could win when his offense performs this poorly. He has the responsibility to shake the lineup up. Move people around. He isn't doing it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) They survived in 2008, even without Quentin. Barely. Then got ousted quick.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:12 PM) The goal is to win the division. There's a big difference now.Of course it is. That should be your goal every year. Sometimes it doesn't work out that way. Adding a SP will do nothing for this team I don't think because they can't hit.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) Then you will compete with 7 other teams. Now ask yourself the quetion that fathom asked Marty. I don't think a SP will make a difference. This team cannot hit, and it hasn't been able to hit post asb for as long as I can remember.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:08 PM) Question for you....do you think even with a solid starting pitcher acquisition that this team can contend with the Tigers the rest of the year? If your goal is to make the playoffs, then they don't need to compete with Detroit.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:00 PM) No, it is your fault that you show up to this site and bring nothing but negative comments. Good or bad games, your comments are the same. Really? What good games have their been? Look back on my history. I'm not always negative, just when it needs to be. What do you bring? I support this team, i just express my opinion. You don't like it, sorry.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:57 PM) I'm surprised they didn't try to get Gavin back for this start, given his success vs the Tigers. Instead, you have him facing his nemesis tomorrow. Exactly. Some of the decisions this org. makes is really crazy and makes you question if they know what they are doing.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:55 PM) I love watching Quintana pitch Sorry, forgot about him. Love watching him.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) What's the point of trading someone who has negligible trade value? Do you want to start Tyler Kuhn or Escobar there? Bring back Lillibridge and start him at 2B? Is it my fault that we have no farm system? Is it my fault our GM trades away prospects and mortgages the future? What's the point of playing and paying someone who only has negligible trade value? This org. needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. I've been saying this for years. This going for it every year isn't working.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Caesar, what, if anything do you actually enjoy about the White Sox? List 3 things. As far as trading away anyone from our current roster (with the exception of the bullpen)....doesn't make any sense because you're fighting with 5-6-7 teams just for the right to face one of the two best teams in baseball, the Angels and Rangers. I enjoy watching Sale pitch. I enjoy watching Viciedo develop. That's about it. Don't enjoy anything else at the moment. But, who does?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Some team will think they can change him this offseason. Be my guest.