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Worthwhile article on tanking, especially in light of Reds' ownership comments


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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33718964/the-new-cba-was-supposed-end-tanking-mlb-here-why

They cited the Reds, Pirates, A's and Orioles.  Arizona isn't far off.   At least the AL Central has five teams that each have reasons to be hopeful/optimistic for the future.

 

https://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?122885-Phil-Castellini-surprised-that-Opening-Day-tickets-still-unsold&p=4402116#post4402116

Here's a LONG thread with a discussion of Reds fans about why Opening Day wasn't close to selling out, and then the last 24 hours of hatred towards the owner's son (well, that sounds a bit familiar in Chicago I'm sure).  Talk about a real PR disaster there.

 

 

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1 hour ago, greg775 said:

I wonder why tanking angers me so. I consider it un-American. Hotdogs, apple pie and trying to win in baseball used to be the standard in USA. Me no like tanking. I like White Sox victories.

Well, that's because the Royals essentially had 25-30 years of tanking between World Series titles...

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12 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Well, that's because the Royals essentially had 25-30 years of tanking between World Series titles...

I never became a Royals or Chiefs "fan" despite living here for many moons. Growing up in Chicago hooked me on Chicago teams. Royals have a nice little organization that was a powerhouse during the McRae/Brett/Quisenberry/White/Patek/Splittorff/Leonardish years and Chiefs have shown how important a special QB is to success. I personally feel there are many ways to win in sports without total tanking.

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11 minutes ago, greg775 said:

I never became a Royals or Chiefs "fan" despite living here for many moons. Growing up in Chicago hooked me on Chicago teams. Royals have a nice little organization that was a powerhouse during the McRae/Brett/Quisenberry/White/Patek/Splittorff/Leonardish years and Chiefs have shown how important a special QB is to success. I personally feel there are many ways to win in sports without total tanking.

But which non Top 10 payroll teams have done it?  The Rays, Brewers recently, Braves are mid-tier and now even higher…maybe 3-4 out of thirty can pull off that trick.  Maybe the Cardinals, too.  Part of it’s due to the current weakness in Pitt and Cincy.

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