witesoxfan Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I personally felt that Garland was the kind of guy that took on his manager's attitude....I look at JM, and I see a very calm guy, with really little fire(except every once and a while he'd have a burst), and when crunch time came, he choked and made the wrong move about 75% of the time it seemed, and from there he got lost. I see almost the exact same thing in Garland. Add to that the fact that Manuel made atleast one very horrible move with Garland that it was really probably kind of hard for Garland to do much of anything. I remember a game against the Royals that was on ESPN(the game we lost 13-9), we were up 5-3 or 6-3 after 5 innings, and Garland let the first two get on in the top of the 6th. What's dumbass Jerry do but take him out and shatter any confidence the kid had. The next 2 or 3 starts out he sucked ass, almost undoubtedly because his confidence was completely shattered. I just hope he becomes a better pitcher with Ozzie as manager...but I'll have to see. I think he'll be a decent pitcher someday....probably a guy that can get 15-18 wins at best with a 3.50 ERA...but I see more of a 14-16 4.00 ERA kind of guy. That's a solid #3-4 pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred3535 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Going back to the original topic of this thread, there's no way in hell that the A's want Jose. a) They've already got a top shorstop prospect in Crosby they want to play there next year. B) Jose doesn't walk. c) He also doesn't hit for average. d) Or play good defense. e) And he makes too much money to justify his performance (which is precisely why the Sox don't want him in the first place). There is absolutely no way in hell KW could convince Beane to give us anything at all decent for him, plus we'd undoubtedly end up paying part of his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Speaking of being fleeced it looks like Beane swindled a PTBN later from the Nsiders. Barrett is not willing to take a cut in pay & will likely be non-tendered by the scrubs this weekend. That's exactly what the A's were going to do. With Barrett likely to be a FA this weekend, Beane essentially got something for nothing. What a guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 FLEECE Billy boy??? That's a rarity...He's usually the one doing the fleecing. And, what I'd really like from the A's is a pitcher like Zito, whom they aren't going to be dumb enough to deal for Jose. We'd have to throw in probably Cotts and maybe another solid minor leaguer if we are even going to get talks going with the A's. But, PITCHING is what we should focus on right now if we are not going to get Nomar...Can't be relying on a Wright to win us many games, so you're putting a lot of stress on ELo and Buehrle to be almost immaculate. Hopefully Garland will impress, or it could be a long season. If thats what it would take...sign me up cause Zito would be a stellar acquisition and I could give a damn who the Sox gave up to get him. In seriousness, I'd stay away from Oakland unless they were willing to deal Crosby to the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hex Rudler Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Hey Pasttime, Rowand is a much better Centerfielder than Everett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Hey Pasttime, Rowand is a much better Centerfielder than Everett Yes, because mediocre > bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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