February 16, 200323 yr I've been pretty out of touch with the Sox since the end of the season. Someone please tell me what the starting lineup & pitchers are looking like going into spring training.
February 16, 200323 yr Jimenez, Valentin, Thomas, Ordonez, Konerko, Lee, Crede, Rowand, Olivo/Alomar Colon, Buehrle, Garland, Wright, Rauch.
February 16, 200323 yr OK, I'm not saying that this is the lineup, but this is my prediction, and it looks pretty OK to me: Lineup: 1)D'Angelo Jiminez 2B 2)Jose Valentin SS 3)Frank Thomas DH 4)Magglio Ordonez RF 5)Paul Konerko 1B 6)Carlos Lee LF 7)Joe Crede 3B 8)Aaron Rowand CF 9)Miguel Olivo C These are also some subs that will be making some starts and being subbed in and out throughout the season : Willie Harris at 2B, Josh Paul or Miguel Olivo at C, and Joe Borchard at LF, once he is called up. As stated, this is a prediction! Not the real lineup. This is Mike's predicition! Just making that clear! And here is my PREDICTION for the White Sox starters. Starters: 1)Mark Buerhle 2)Bartolo Colon 3)Jon Garland 4)Danny Wright 5)Jon Rauch I know a lot of people would say put the veteran Esteban Loaiza that we got from the Blue Jays in the five spot, but the 6'11 rookie should be the starter. Aside from the mishap in Seattle that us Sox fans dread to mention, Rauch had a good season, he had 2 good starts, and a couple good relfief appearences. Besides how can you say 'no' to a player who set a world record the first ball he threw (Cough *Tallest man ever to play in a Major League game* Cough). I believe Rauch is ready and weill be ready on the Soxs' 5th game of the regular season.
February 16, 200323 yr I believe olivo should be the starting pitcher so it'll go something like: Jimenez Valentin (though i want rowand) Thomas Ordonez Konerko Lee Crede Rowand (though i want Valentin) Olivo Buerhle Colon Garland Wright Rauch Koch Marte Gordon White Glover Wunsch
February 16, 200323 yr Right now this is what I got off the top of my head Jimenez Manos Thomas Ordonez Konerko Lee Crede Rowand Olivo Bench: Alomar Daubach Rios Graffy Harris Rotation Colon Buerhle Garland Wright Rauch/Loiaza (It will eventually be Rauch full time, I'm confident in that) Bullpen White Flash Marte Glover Wunsch/Sanders/Munoz (Likely Wunshc, but we'll see what happens) Koch
February 16, 200323 yr Jas...I'd look for someone to be in Rios's spot...not sure he'll make the club out of ST. He'll probably either be cut, put on waivers and then sent to the minors, or traded....he could make it, but I wouldn't count on it. If JP or Burke or someone like that can prove that they can positions aside from catcher, then I think they will make it...the 5th bench spot will go to the most versatile guy, or a guy that can play catcher and another position or two....so I hope that JP or Burke can play 3B and LF and RF and 1B....and then eventually have them learn SS, 2B and CF....we would be a much better team if that occurs.
February 16, 200323 yr the 6'11 rookie should be the starter. Aside from the mishap in Seattle that us Sox fans dread to mention, Rauch had a good season, he had 2 good starts, and a couple good relfief appearences. Besides how can you say 'no' to a player who set a world record the first ball he threw (Cough *Tallest man ever to play in a Major League game* Cough). I believe Rauch is ready and weill be ready on the Soxs' 5th game of the regular season. You said a mouth full. Agreed 100%. Let's start someone from our minor league system instead of just trading them away. Rauch should be the number 5 but the opportunity for JM to tinker with the 5 spot may prove to be too tempting for him. I think Loaiza will start in the 5 spot for at least the first month or so simply because it seems like the logical JM move.
February 16, 200323 yr KW kept stressing at SoxFest that we don't need the 5th starter that much in the first 55 games - so I am thinking that maybe what you suggest JM will do is exactly what will happen
February 17, 200323 yr 1. Jiminez 2. Crede 3. Ordonez 4. Konerko 5. Thomas 6. Lee 7. Valentin 8. Rowand 9. Olivo 1. Buerhle 2. Colon 3. Garland 4. Wright 5. Rauch
February 17, 200323 yr Jas...I'd look for someone to be in Rios's spot...not sure he'll make the club out of ST. He'll probably either be cut, put on waivers and then sent to the minors, or traded....he could make it, but I wouldn't count on it. If JP or Burke or someone like that can prove that they can positions aside from catcher, then I think they will make it...the 5th bench spot will go to the most versatile guy, or a guy that can play catcher and another position or two....so I hope that JP or Burke can play 3B and LF and RF and 1B....and then eventually have them learn SS, 2B and CF....we would be a much better team if that occurs. I think he will. If he doesn't, then the Sox should look for a guy that can play outfield, so they could take Nunez over Harris. Lofton would look really good in a backup role. He plays good defense, can run, bunt, and is a great alternative if Jimenez falters in the leadoff slot.
February 17, 200323 yr Bench: Alomar Daubach Rios Graffy Harris im looking at your bench: i agree thats probably the bench players that go north....but with rios and daubach we have two identical players...wouldnt it be better to keep josh paul , mr versitility??...he can catch , spell , crede at 3rd and play the corner outfield spots...of course it does give jerry the tinkerer move tinkering ability wonder how tradable mr rios is???
February 17, 200323 yr Bench: Alomar Daubach Rios Graffy Harris im looking at your bench: i agree thats probably the bench players that go north....but with rios and daubach we have two identical players...wouldnt it be better to keep josh paul , mr versitility??...he can catch , spell , crede at 3rd and play the corner outfield spots...of course it does give jerry the tinkerer move tinkering ability wonder how tradable mr rios is??? Rios could very well be dealt. I see him getting dealt if and only if Nunez plays good during spring training. Still, Rios hit pretty good last season and even better as the season went on. I like Armando quite a bit. He's got good pop and can hit for a solid average and he's proven he can come off the bench. I'll keep both of them. I think Rios can play a bit of center, although it may not be pretty.
February 17, 200323 yr Bench: Alomar Daubach Rios Graffy Harris im looking at your bench: i agree thats probably the bench players that go north....but with rios and daubach we have two identical players...wouldnt it be better to keep josh paul , mr versitility??...he can catch , spell , crede at 3rd and play the corner outfield spots...of course it does give jerry the tinkerer move tinkering ability wonder how tradable mr rios is??? Rios could very well be dealt. I see him getting dealt if and only if Nunez plays good during spring training. Still, Rios hit pretty good last season and even better as the season went on. I like Armando quite a bit. He's got good pop and can hit for a solid average and he's proven he can come off the bench. I'll keep both of them. I think Rios can play a bit of center, although it may not be pretty. replies i got from giants on rios wernt too promising...they said he was horrible in CF...ok corner outfielder..was a good hitter but didnt play well with others..guess there were rumors of clubhouse controversy surrounding him and one situation in a game where he attacked a teammate (dont know if that meant physically or just got up in his face) because rios singled up the middle and the runner on 2nd didnt score, costing him an RBI... i hope kenny checked this guy out and found out he is not a clubhouse cancer..one goos thing though..we are only paying him like less than a million..so if he does becaome a problem we can just cut himn loose..
February 17, 200323 yr White Sox 25-man Roster Buehrle Colon Garland Wright Rauch Middle Relievers: White, Glover, Gordon, Wunsch, Marte, Koch Projected starting lineup: Jimenez Manos Thomas Ordonez Konerko Lee Crede Olivo Rowand Tony G., Willie H., Sandy A., Armando R., Brian Daubach.
February 17, 200323 yr Baggs, from what I heard those reports on Rios were false. He never got into a fight and that he's supposed to be a good guy in the clubhouse. Still, I guess you never know.
February 17, 200323 yr Baggs, from what I heard those reports on Rios were false. He never got into a fight and that he's supposed to be a good guy in the clubhouse. Still, I guess you never know. hope you are right on that..im going by what the fans at the giants.com boards told me
February 17, 200323 yr Call me insane, but, me thinks that if he proves himself during the season, you might be seeing Olivo batting 1 or 2. - Pete
February 17, 200323 yr Call me insane, but, me thinks that if he proves himself during the season, you might be seeing Olivo batting 1 or 2. - Pete wow, a leadoff catcher, something i havent seen on this sox team for a while. He's got the speed, but i think it'll be a little too much pressure on him, being our almost-everyday catcher(hopefully), the wear and tear of catching, we should take a little pressure off of him. Besides, batting 9th is like a second leadoff man anywayz
February 18, 200323 yr Call me insane, but, me thinks that if he proves himself during the season, you might be seeing Olivo batting 1 or 2. - Pete You're insane! Seriously, Olivo is going to have plenty to work on, learn, worry about.... without the added burden of hitting 1 or 2.
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