Protesters Trash Grounds Around Rumsfeld's Home

 

That was very "non-peaceful" of them. Not saying all of them are that way.

 

Now here's a few links Sideshowapu emailed me to put up having to do with protests he helped participate in at his school

 

http://salty.ncsa.uiuc.edu/gallery/dayofwar?&page=7

 

http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/rate/10483

 

http://www.dailyillini.com/mar03/mar21/new...s_story01.shtml

 

http://www.dailyillini.com/mar03/mar21/new...s_story07.shtml

Protesters Trash Grounds Around Rumsfeld's Home

 

That was very "non-peaceful" of them.  Not saying all of them are that way.

 

Now here's a few links Sideshowapu emailed me to put up having to do with protests he helped participate in at his school

Why doesn't he post them? And these anti-force/pro-peace nudniks can be quite violent and vandalous when they don't get their way. Don't believe me? Check out the hypocrites on 03/20 in SF and Chicago for starters.

Or look at what they did to Rumsfelds house.

Or look at what they did to Rumsfelds house.

Now THAT'S the way to get your "Peace and Love" point across :fyou

Pent up frustration is a very dangerous thing. When you have a President who essentially tells you to "f*** off," I can't see that being all to conducive to peaceful protesting. That, and a lot of times, cops help provoke these sorts of things.

In LA a cop beat a girl with his baton or something like that. I was listening to the radio as it happened and the head of the department immediately announced an investigation. Cops are human, so sometimes they make mistakes, but I don't think they instigate everything that happens.

Why doesn't he post them? And these anti-force/pro-peace nudniks can be quite violent and vandalous when they don't get their way. Don't believe me? Check out the hypocrites on 03/20 in SF and Chicago for starters.

I didn't post them because I had myself banned for a while to more effectively work on the day after war started peace protests (which shut down Campustown for a while yesterday....pictures etc. in the links I had Jason post).

 

It was very peacefully done in Champaign Urbana with the cops stopping traffic for our march and helping us every step of the way...even removing the 6 pro-war people who parked in private property and had them forcibly removed. Yes, we even went up and shook the officers' hands thanking them for all they did for us too.

 

(The best part was when there were over 300 of us marching in the quad and 2 pro-war protesters showed up saying "We're the majority!" Then I told him, "If Saddam has weapons then Rumsfeld has the receipts" and he shut up figuring out that we sold them weapons of mass destruction in the 1980s. But he soon started screaming again and our entire group just starting singing "Give Peace a Chance" which drowned him out and he gave up. It was a really positive experience.

 

Yes, I was threatened with violence by a lot of pro-war people yesterday. However, when I told them "If you think the war is so just, then go get enlisted and fight and possibly die. I will get you the recruiter information." to which they got scared and shut the f*** up. I was willing to march for hours, stand in the cold for hours on end, sit in the rain for the cause I believe in but those pro-war people didn't want to give up their posh apartment for one day to go actively do what they believe is right (i.e. go get recruited to join the war effort)

 

This country was built on civil disobedience. Do you think the British were happy when we dumped the tea during the Boston Tea Party? Do you think that the whites in the South during the 1960s were happy that African Americans were successfully trying to break 'Jim Crow' laws et al. that oppressed them? This country has had a long standing of civil disobedience, but these peace protests are nothing compared to what happened during Vietnam. (i.e. Kent State) Blocking traffic is nothing to having the National Guard come in and open fire.

 

I even had discussions with a few ROTC members I saw during the day telling them "We have the utmost respect for our troops. We support them the most because we believe diplomatic solutions that had yet to be exhausted were better than sending my brothers and sisters into harm's way." (And on a side note, one of the main chants in our march was "Support our troops/Send them home" so we are 100% behind our troops. We are just against Bush's west Texas old West "Mad Cowboy Disease" where he doesn't want to use international law or international unity to reach a peaceful agreement...he'd rather go in guns blazing and sort everything out later. (You'd figure that one day of protest gets the largest protest in British HISTORY and many others would get his attention...If you see the music video for System of a Down's song "Boom", you'll see a lot of the protests)

 

And as for the inherent liberal bias in the media, the entire time during our march, not one media source came out to film us (Yes, we sent press releases to them notifying them multiple times in the weeks prior to the event) So we stormed the local TV station demanding "Where is the media?" and forced them to come out and cover the protest which they were going to avoid. Wouldn't a liberal media WANT to cover the protests? Maybe that's just my train of thought.

Or look at what they did to Rumsfelds house.

Now THAT'S the way to get your "Peace and Love" point across :fyou

Professor Joe Miller at UIUC (Vietnam veteran and member of Vietnam Vets Against War) was giving an anti-war speech at a rally yesterday. A pro-war activist stood behind him waving a flag and calling him and Doug Rokke (Vietnam and Gulf War I veteran) traitors for questioning the Bush rush to war despite the lack of evidence. How can you justify that? (Yeah, and Jello Biafra even called the guy out....he stayed the night after his lecture Wednesday night and gave an impromptu speech at our rally which was hella cool) But how can you justify pro war activist who deem people that question the government as traitors? Is that the way to be "Patriotically Correct" now?

 

If so, then America is going to Hell and a handbasket. And the kicker, the guy calling people traitors had not served his country (yet he thought the war was so great) Like Joe Miller said to the guy "Republicans like that are just motherf***ers."

The biggest story on both NBC and MTV tonight was the protests. It was all over the place and I couldn't get away from it. I just wanted to watch a crappy sitcom or something damn it!

 

 

 

 

The thing that made me absolutely sick though is right before NBC went to their big story about the protests one of the reporters was talking about the attack on Baghdad and described the city as pockmarked with numerous "ground zeroes". I almost threw the remote through the TV.

The biggest story on both NBC and MTV tonight was the protests.  It was all over the place and I couldn't get away from it.  I just wanted to watch a crappy sitcom or something damn it!

 

 

 

 

The thing that made me absolutely sick though is right before NBC went to their big story about the protests one of the reporters was talking about the attack on Baghdad and described the city as pockmarked with numerous "ground zeroes".  I almost threw the remote through the TV.

I'd guess it was NBC advertising the effectiveness of the US weapons (I mean since GE owns NBC and GE also is one of the largest arms manufacturers for the US military) It's sickening that GE, excuse me, the "news" would say that.

The thing that made me absolutely sick though is right before NBC went to their big story about the protests one of the reporters was talking about the attack on Baghdad and described the city as pockmarked with numerous "ground zeroes".  I almost threw the remote through the TV.

From what I've seen so far, the damage caused by the bombs we've dropped doesn't even come close to the "Ground Zero" devastation.

You're talking nonsense, and avoiding the point of what I have to say as usual. Not that I expect you to address it intelligently.

 

 

 

The story was about the war from an Iraqi's point of view and it was clearly a reference to 9/11. The comparison sickens me.

You're talking nonsense, and avoiding the point of what I have to say as usual.  Not that I expect you to address it intelligently.

 

 

 

The story was about the war from an Iraqi's point of view and it was clearly a reference to 9/11.  The comparison sickens me.

So, cruise missiles and bombs that destroy civilians' homes and kill/injure/maim innocents isn't "terrorism"?

Protestors f*** up Rummy's lawn

 

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Rummy sells WMD to Saddam in the 80's.

 

 

Big f***ing deal if the protestors littered s*** on Rummy's lawn, he deserves to have a rod rammed up his ass.

Are you saying that it is?

You don't have to answer. I know the answer to my question the same as you know my answer to yours.

Are you saying that it is?

War is terrorism. Not only for the people we are invading, but for us too. The troops' families who have to see them come back in body bags, etc. The only people it is a windfall for is the f***ing weapons manufacturers and George W. Bush who will try to ride this into re-election because war presidents usually get re-elected.

You're talking nonsense, and avoiding the point of what I have to say as usual.  Not that I expect you to address it intelligently.

 

 

 

The story was about the war from an Iraqi's point of view and it was clearly a reference to 9/11.  The comparison sickens me.

So, cruise missiles and bombs that destroy civilians' homes and kill/injure/maim innocents isn't "terrorism"?

Those missiles and bombs aren't aimed at the civilians. The two planes that flew into the Twins Towers were. Will some civilians die from this, YES. Nothing is perfect, BUT, these are people that are going to be free and I think they will enjoy it. Maybe they won't be happy with the US at first, but in time they will be, because they will be able to do so many things that they didn't know they could do and they'll actually understand the word freedom.

You're talking nonsense, and avoiding the point of what I have to say as usual.  Not that I expect you to address it intelligently.

 

 

 

The story was about the war from an Iraqi's point of view and it was clearly a reference to 9/11.  The comparison sickens me.

So, cruise missiles and bombs that destroy civilians' homes and kill/injure/maim innocents isn't "terrorism"?

That's the crappy US media for you. They've been reporting that military targets and Saddam's palaces have been targeted. Good thing Apu has pointed out to all of us that we're targeting civilian homes..... all the while, we're leaving the lights on for them.

That's the crappy US media for you. They've been reporting that military targets and Saddam's palaces have been targeted. Good thing Apu has pointed out to all of us that we're targeting civilian homes..... all the while, we're leaving the lights on for them.

It's a given in war that innocents will suffer. If not directly from bombs/shrapnel etc. etc. etc. harming them then it will be from the f***ed up infrastructure of their country that they won't be able to rebuild. How much do you want to bet that they'll be in debt to the International Monetary Fraud, er Fund and the World Bunk, excuse me Bank for years in the rebuilding process?

 

We've already killed a 1/2 million of them and have been bombing them for 12 years anyways, so when can you declare that the violence of war started, you know? For all extensive purposes, Gulf War I never ended really.

 

And the US media is s***ty. Very incredibly s***ty.