34-17 with a 4 game lead

[AddisonStSox]

Just beacause someone who has less than a 100 post doesnt mean he is a casual fan...

Hell I work  16-18 hours a day and cant always have time to make a post does that make me less of a fan than someone who sits here all day...

 

Read the thread in its entirety and then post.

 

I'm out; my blood-pressure can't handle this stuff today. It's way too nice out.

[Yossarian]

I've been following baseball and the Sox since Eisenhower was President, but hey, if you don't like what I post you can fire away. This team is 10-10 since starting off at 24-7. They've looked less than ordinary. The offense is in shambles, I mean come on look at this lineup. Pathetic. They've got to step it up. You can't expect your starters to pitch a gem each and every time out. The manager tries my patience at times. I'm surprised some of you didn't hear me yelling and screaming in the late innings of today's game. Ozzie will get his head handed to him in the playoffs just like Manuel was schooled but good by Lou Piniella in 2000. Yes, they are 34-17. Great. They're going to need the starters to stay on top of their games, and have at least a couple of their hitters come alive. This manager is going to blow a game every now and then. Guys like Leo Durocher, Al Lopez, Chuck Tanner and Lou Piniella would steal you a game sometimes. Hopefully Ozzie has some kind of learning curve. A top of the line manager he ain't.

Edited May 31, 2005 by Yossarian

[Jabroni]

The Cardinals are a great team but they must be doing something wrong if they have more losses than we do...  not every team is perfect

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Great response. You didn't even address my question. Our offense is pathetic and you are one of the people that refuses to see it.

Edited May 31, 2005 by Jabroni

[nvxplorer]

If you can't find anything wrong with the way the Chicago White Sox organization (from top to bottom) won this game today, I'd love to live in such a blissful place.

I'm with ya on the field play, but I wouldn't go so far to blame the entire organization.

[AddisonStSox]

I'm with ya on the field play, but I wouldn't go so far to blame the entire organization.

 

...I wasn't going to mention this, but the hot dog vendor in section 115 was really lax this afternoon.

 

There. I said it.

[whitesoxjr27]

theses threads get old fast. b**** after b**** thread about how bad the sox are. lets just enjoy the team and see where it go's.

[AddisonStSox]

I've been following baseball and the Sox since Eisenhower was President, but hey, if you don't like what I post you can fire away. This team is 10-10 since starting off at 24-7. They've looked less than ordinary. The offense is in shambles, I mean come on look at this lineup. Pathetic. They've got to step it up. You can't expect your starters to pitch a gem, each and every time out. The manager tries my patience at times. I'm surprised some of you didn't hear me yelling and screaming in the late innings of today's game. Ozzie will get his head handed to him in the playoffs just like Manuel was schooled but good by Lou Piniella in 2000. Yes, they are 34-17. Great. They're going to need the starters to stay on top of their games, and have at least a couple of their hitters come alive. This manager is going to blow a game every now and then. Guys like Leo Durocher, Al Lopez, Chuck Tanner and Lou Piniella would steal you a game sometimes. Hopefully Ozzie has some kind of learning curve. A top of the line manager he ain't.

 

Excellent post and I couldn't agree more with that statement. (See post-game thread)

[Winnin Ugly]

out of the last 18 games 15 of them have been aganist other 1st place ball clubs and we still have the best record and havent loss that much ground.

The Sox will be alright and we will make the playoffs

[nvxplorer]

I've been following baseball and the Sox since Eisenhower was President, but hey, if you don't like what I post you can fire away. This team is 10-10 since starting off at 24-7. They've looked less than ordinary. The offense is in shambles, I mean come on look at this lineup. Pathetic. They've got to step it up. You can't expect your starters to pitch a gem, each and every time out. The manager tries my patience at times. I'm surprised some of you didn't hear me yelling and screaming in the late innings of today's game. Ozzie will get his head handed to him in the playoffs just like Manuel was schooled but good by Lou Piniella in 2000. Yes, they are 34-17. Great. They're going to need the starters to stay on top of their games, and have at least a couple of their hitters come alive. This manager is going to blow a game every now and then. Guys like Leo Durocher, Al Lopez, Chuck Tanner and Lou Piniella would steal you a game sometimes. Hopefully Ozzie has some kind of learning curve. A top of the line manager he ain't.

I don't disagree with you, but my view isn't as strongly held as yours appears, either.

 

It's worth noting that during that 10-10 stretch, the Sox have played Baltimore, Texas twice, and now Anaheim twice. I fully expect the Sox to roll again once they get back to playing the Central.

 

Some of Ozzie's moves have baffled me as well, but I think it's a little early to say he'll get his head handed to him in the playoffs. This is only his second year as a manager. Hopefully, he's learning his lessons.

[gettysburg32]

My theory, we've mostly played like ass in CHC, ANA, TEX, and today, and we've been 5-5 during that time. All-in-all therefore, there are still many more reasons to be happy than be b****ing. If this is a "rough" time in the season, well, everyone else is going to be a lot worse than 5-5 in their rough times. I'm optimistic that today's victory turned defeat turned victory spurs on a good homestand.

 

Would I like to see another bat added to the roster, who wouldn't? Would I like to see Ozzie not screw over Mark and his deserved W today and nearly F the whole day up? Obviously. Was I ready to chuck something through the wall when Crede nearly popped up his SECOND sac bunt of the game? Damn right I was. But overall, this has been pretty cool so far.

 

And if mods and admins are going to warn people largely based on their post count, well this had been one of the few message board sites where I'd never encountered such immature practices, I hope it remains so.

 

[AddisonStSox]

I don't disagree with you, but my view isn't as strongly held as yours appears, either.

 

It's worth noting that during that 10-10 stretch, the Sox have played Baltimore, Texas twice, and now Anaheim twice. I fully expect the Sox to roll again once they get back to playing the Central.

Some of Ozzie's moves have baffled me as well, but I think it's a little early to say he'll get his head handed to him in the playoffs. This is only his second year as a manager. Hopefully, he's learning his lessons.

 

Yes, but it's one of those things that if you were actually watching the games, you would know that a number of those losses could either: a) be attributed to a poor mangerial decision or b ) complete lack of execution on offense

 

 

Or am I way off base on this?

 

EDIT: Before you respond, let it be known that my post wasn't intended to be an attack on your baseball intellegence, loyalty, etc. After reading it, I found some of that may be misintrepted.

Edited May 31, 2005 by AddisonStSox

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Yes, but it's one of those things that if you were actually watching the games, you would know that a number of those losses could either: a) be attributed to a poor mangerial decision or b ) complete lack of execution on offense

Or am I way off base on this?

 

 

Half of those losses are totally on the back of the offense, or lack thereof. The pitching staff can only do so much.

 

Today, even though we won, we had soooooo many chances to put them away and we didn't execute. It's getting old really fast.

Edited May 31, 2005 by NUKE_CLEVELAND

[nvxplorer]

Yes, but it's one of those things that if you were actually watching the games, you would know that a number of those losses could either: a) be attributed to a poor mangerial decision or b ) complete lack of execution on offense

Or am I way off base on this?

No, you're not off base.

 

I don't disagree, as I stated. The point is, regardless of what happens or may/could have happened on the field, you're not going to have as much success against better teams. That's just the way it is.

 

Good teams are better at taking advantage of mistakes. The Sox have split with Baltimore. Swept Toronto. 2-3 against Texas (and I'm not convinced the Rangers weren't stealing signs in Arlington), and now 3-2 against Anaheim.

 

Managerial decisions and hitting can be blamed, especially the hitting. There are a plethora of other reasons that decide ballgames as well. Luck - that wild pitch that bounced right back to Molina in Anaheim. Defense - today's game.

 

Could the Sox have taken a game or two that they didn't? Sure, but anything can happen. There will be games where the opposition screws up, and if the Sox can't take advantage of it, they will pay. So far, I'm satisfied with the play against division leaders, but I agree that there is much room for improvement.

[AddisonStSox]

No, you're not off base.

 

I don't disagree, as I stated. The point is, regardless of what happens or may/could have happened on the field, you're not going to have as much success against better teams. That's just the way it is.

 

Good teams are better at taking advantage of mistakes. The Sox have split with Baltimore. Swept Toronto. 2-3 against Texas (and I'm not convinced the Rangers weren't stealing signs in Arlington), and now 3-2 against Anaheim.

 

Managerial decisions and hitting can be blamed, especially the hitting. There are a plethora of other reasons that decide ballgames as well. Luck - that wild pitch that bounced right back to Molina in Anaheim. Defense - today's game.

 

Could the Sox have taken a game or two that they didn't? Sure, but anything can happen. There will be games where the opposition screws up, and if the Sox can't take advantage of it, they will pay. So far, I'm satisfied with the play against division leaders, but I agree that there is much room for improvement.

 

 

On that note, I'll see my way out of this thread. Excellent post, as every point you made was vaild.

 

Time will tell the true skill of this ballclub and its current dynamic. Personally, I think things need to change if we want to hang around come October. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and strap it down because Ozzie and the White Sox anemic offense are sure to give us many more gems this season.

 

Go Sox.

[nvxplorer]

On that note, I'll see my way out of this thread.  Excellent post, as every point you made was vaild.

 

Time will tell the true skill of this ballclub and its current dynamic.  Personally, I think things need to change if we want to hang around come October.  In the meantime, sit back, relax, and strap it down because Ozzie and the White Sox anemic offense are sure to give us many more gems this season.

 

Go Sox.

Thanks for the compliment.

 

Yes, I sometimes wonder about the "special year" and "deal with the devil" comments.

 

(Now wouldn't be a good time to mention my level headedness, would it?)