My dream scenerio

[rangercal]

Hahaha. No way in hell Vizquel bats anywhere but 2nd. We have seen what Gooch can do when allowed to swing freely. My scenario

 

Pods - LF

Vizquel - SS

Overbay - DH

Dye - RF

PK - 1B

Rowand - CF

Pierzynski - C

Crede - 3B

Gooch - 2B

 

MB

Freddy

Jon

Burnett

Duque

 

Contra

Cotts

Jizzcan

Eyre

Jenks

Politte

Hermy

I would take either dream . get something done KW

[JoshPR]

Konerko Would DH and Overbay is a better Glove. I think Overbay would thrive in the AL

[whitesox61382]

"1. So tracey is having a half decent year.. Lets annoint him starting 1b? The guy lost his 3b job.. They gave him the 1st base job and manages to lsoe that.. And still you want him as our 1b.. .. hell he probally lose it out to Timo by May. But your right I see your sign someone who hits .004 better avg is such the answer.. Funny you forgot to mention their OBP.. wonder why that is .. Mabye because Overbay actually is better in every single offense Catagory, that matters?"

 

Anthrax, I like the idea of getting Overbay, but I also like the idea of getting Tracy and I really think that you are drastically underestimating him. Lets get some facts straight for starters. Just because a player loses his starting job at one position doesn't mean that he is a bad player. In reality, he essentially was moved from 3B to 1B(didn't really lose anything), because the D-Backs wanted to improve either 3B or 1B this past offseason with the intension of giving Tracy the starting position at the place they didn't upgrade(which happened to be 1B). Furthermore, they felt so highly about Tracy that the moved Hillenbrand(.310/15/80 .812 OPS in 04') arguable their most consistant bat from 2004 to give Tracy that starting 1B job(that alone should tell you something about this kid). He is losing some AB's this year because Tony Clark decided to put up a monster season(not because Tracy is playing bad). You don't think Milwaukee would sit Overbay a few more times or that the Sox would sit Konerko a few more times for that matter, if they had Tony Clark hitting .330/16/52 1.034 OPS behind them. Would that make Overbay or Konerko bad players by your logic? The fact is that Tracy can flat out hit. He hit .335 in the minors, has a career BA of .288, and is hitting .293 this season. Furthermore, he is all of 25, so the prime of his career is still far ahead of him. I mean Overbay was still in the minors at 25 with a grand total of 2 major league ABs. I would be happy with either guy at 1B in the long-term.

[DBAHO]

1. So tracey is having a half decent year.. Lets annoint him starting 1b? The guy lost his 3b job.. They gave him the 1st base job and manages to lsoe that.. And still you want him as our 1b.. :rolly .. hell he probally lose it out to Timo by May. But your right I see your sign someone who hits .004 better avg is such the answer.. Funny you forgot to mention their OBP.. wonder why that is .. Mabye because Overbay actually is better in every single offense Catagory, that matters?

 

2. So know we get another SS, who can't hit.. Brillant what else you working on? So a Carreer .245 hitter should get our starting SS job.. And how much cash are we throwing into the fire to get him?

 

3. :headshake  So its okay to make excuses for another fan favotire in why he can't play at this level anymore? Yet you still think its okay to carry his salray when it can be used to further help this team with a better player at a postion. (and for the record I am a huge Thomas backer.. But not at the cost of the Team)

 

4. OC has been injuried by minor injuries hurting his performance..Hard to complete your request.

 

In this post where did I say we should resign Maggs?  And again You only give half of every story..

But, in the overbay arguement.. it does?   Funny how that works huh?

 

As far as washburn, I read on other sites about this..Another thing to thjink about is that if Angels would have wanted him back you think they would have signed him already

1 - How about looking at how a guy has done in their major league career so far when you look at Tracy. He was a 3rd baseman that was moved to first because of Shea Hillenbrand. Then the D-Backs go out and sign Troy Glaus to a major deal while Tracy starts the year off at first, and does a perfectly fine job. Because Clark has hit so well however and Tracy is so versatile, they've decided to get Clark into the lineup to platoon with Tracy, and get Tracy to play at 3B or in the OF when they need him to. Tracy is hitting above .290, to say he would lose his job to Timo f***in Perez is ABSOLUTELY INSANE. Overbay is in his 3rd full major league season, Tracy his 2nd, and Chad is 3 years younger than Lyle. Something to consider when throwing out the stats. This also means Tracy will be cheaper and under our control for longer. You know how many teams would love to have Chad Tracy at 1B at the moment?

 

2 - Gonzalez is hitting something like .270 at the moment, maybe he's finally getting it. I didn't come up with the rumor, it was reported by the Sentinel in Florida. Furcal is going to get Rollins like money. Who else is out there that the Sox can offer the SS job too?

 

3 - There's no way we could of dumped Thomas during the last off-season. We were stuck with him like it or not. Now we have the option of getting rid of him this off-season. If we kept Maggs, we have what $20 million locked up b/w those 2 players this season, and how many games collectively have they both played this season? That is why we have Carl Everett.

 

4 - So it's all the injuries fault that Cabrera hasn't lived up to his potential? Don't you think he's NOT worth $32 million over 4 years? 99.99999% of Anaheim fans and the majority of us would think so (a sub .300 OBP just does not cut it). How ironic when we complain about Juan Uribe when we look at these splits;

 

Cabrera - .242/.296/.346

Uribe - .237/.273/.384

 

And Cabrera makes almost $4 million more than Uribe this season.

 

If you want I can bump one of your old posts which proves that you said we should have re-signed Maggs along with signing Lowe and OC.

 

4b - Maybe the Angels are seeing what's out there on the FA market before making a decision on Washburn. Doesn't it tell you something of how they rate him when they haven't re-signed him though?

 

Also on Overbay vs Ortiz thing, let's have a look at the whole picture.

 

Overbay vs. Tracy

Overbay - Has a better OBP, has a little more power (since he's played in more games). Will be eligible for arbitration soon.

Tracy - First full year in the majors, still has hit for good power, and was hitting over .300 a week or 2 ago. He's not automatically going to hit 50 HR's like Pujols did in his 1st season. Won't be eligible for arbitration for a few years.

 

Ortiz - Stuck with a terrible contract, has more BB's than K's, and a terrible ERA. Is injury prone.

 

Wright - Has a contract that can be voided. At his best, is much better than Ortiz. Pitched terribly in his brief outings with the Yankees.

 

Looking all of those factors, can you tell me now, you would still pick Ortiz over Wright for the long - term of this ballclub, even though Ortiz would suck for 4 seasons, and Wright wouldn't be part of this ballclub after this season? Now Overbay vs. Tracy. Will you give up more for Overbay for Tracy and how big of a difference is there now, and in the future (when Tracy hits his prime and Overbay is getting out of his)?