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One said the text, agreed by the ruling Shi'ite and Kurdish coalition over Sunni Arab objections, would read: "Islam is a main source for legislation and it is not permitted to legislate anything that conflicts with the fixed principles of its rules."

 

Shi'ite delegate Jawad al-Maliki said the wording was fixed.

 

Here come the clerics...

So we're "fighting for" an Islamic State - very similiar to Iran. No surprise there.

Edited August 22, 200520 yr by kapkomet

Its a tough thing. The problem is if we let people have the right to choose, do we take it back if we don't like the results? I wish I knew what public support for an Islamic style government was like there.

Its a tough thing.  The problem is if we let people have the right to choose, do we take it back if we don't like the results?  I wish I knew what public support for an Islamic style government was like there.

It is pretty high amongst the more observant Shia, but like you I don't know what percentage of the population that really is.

 

It is important, and a positive point I think, tht as al-Hasani pointeed out, the compromise langiage on the role of Shariah wnt into the draft - invokint that Islam is "a" main soiurce of law and not "the" main source of law. What that concession would actually mean for women's rights, etc., remains to be seen.

 

It wil be quite the kick in the pants if it turns out we're just getting another Iran for all our trouble.

It is pretty high amongst the more observant Shia, but like you I don't know what percentage of the population that really is.

 

It is important, and a positive point I think, tht as al-Hasani pointeed out, the compromise langiage on the role of Shariah wnt into the draft - invokint that Islam is "a" main soiurce of law and not "the" main source of law.  What that concession would actually mean for women's rights, etc., remains to be seen.

 

It wil be quite the kick in the pants if it turns out we're just getting another Iran for all our trouble.

I think that is what a lot of folks in the higher levels of government are starting to think.

You stole the thread title from a Band of Brothers episode.

That's the thing. I'm a proponent of self-determination for all peoples. If they want an Islamist state, good for them. However, at that point, I can't support us fighting to support a religious based regime.

 

And I think its a massive failure on our part that we couldn't instill in our own small way, a seed of desire for the democratic government that we envisioned for us.

 

Of course, hopefully, this will be in name only in their Constitution. The true test of our efforts here come five years down the line. If its really evolved into a peaceful democracy - there is definitely a huge accomplishment to hang our hats on.

 

If we just set up another tyrant or cleric into a vicehold of power in the Mideast, the things we did were indeed for naught.