Ken Rosenthal Talks Offseason Moves

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

He struggled after first being called up like most 21 year old rookies called up straight from AA tend to do so he went down to AAA for the first time and worked on his game, came back up and dominated against some of the best teams in the game. I never said he was the only reason the Sox made the playoff, just that without him they likely would not have. Brandon was left off the playoff roster mainly because the Sox only needed 4 starters and El Duque's playoff experience made him a better candidate for a bullpen spot on the playoff team than a 21 year old with only a couple career starts, if El Duque was still injured come October McCarthy would have been one of the 25 players selected to play in the postseason.

 

And as for the large spaces in your posts, I'm not going to edit them out but I am going to ask you again, nicely to no longer do that.

 

There are the excuses again. He struggled because blah blah blah. He struggled last year because blah blah blah. However, when he is dominating it is all because he is the great Brandon McCarthy. Whatever man. If this, if that. There is no telling what Ozzie would have done if El Duque was still injured as well all know he was not fond of McCarthy for whatever reason. You can't say with any certainty what would have happened or who would have replaced El Duque on the playoff roster. You can only speculate.

 

You ask me nicely and I don't have a problem with it. You talk to me like a horse's ass then I will not do it. Just as you mention my suspensions and then have nothing to say after I make my comments about them because you know that I am right. Whatever man, you don't like me or my posts and I don't give a rat's ass. This is a baseball message board. I am here to post my opinions and debate the position I take, not to make cyber friends.

Edited February 16, 2007 by southsideirish

[Kalapse]

There are the excuses again. He struggled because blah blah blah. He struggled last year because blah blah blah. However, when he is dominating it is all because he is the great Brandon McCarthy. Whatever man. If this, if that. There is no telling what Ozzie would have done if El Duque was still injured as well all know he was not fond of McCarthy for whatever reason. You can't say with any certainty what would have happened or who would have replaced El Duque on the playoff roster. You can only speculate.

 

You ask me nicely and I don't have a problem with it. You talk to me like a horse's ass then I will not do it. Just as you mention my suspensions and then have nothing to say after I make my comments about them because you know that I am right. Whatever man, you don't like me or my posts and I don't give a rat's ass. This is a baseball message board. I am here to post my opinions and debate the position I take, not to make cyber friends.

I don't remember calling him the great McCarthy but whatever. And you're right Ozzie wasn't fond of McCarthy which is more than likely why he was sent to the pen for '06, based on what Brandon did at the end of '05 and in both spring trainings he was ready for the big time and he should have been in the rotation in 2006 outside of that I don't even know what is being argued here. And McCarthy would have been on the playoff roster mainly because there is NO ONE else that makes any sense that could possibly have taken that final spot. And 99.9% of what's discussed on this board is speculation so to dismiss it with 'blah blah blah' is pretty backwards.

 

I really don't know why you were ever suspended and I really don't give a s*** either.

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't remember calling him the great McCarthy but whatever. And you're right Ozzie wasn't fond of McCarthy which is more than likely why he was sent to the pen for '06, based on what Brandon did at the end of '05 and in both spring trainings he was ready for the big time and he should have been in the rotation in 2006 outside of that I don't even know what is being argued here. And McCarthy would have been on the playoff roster mainly because there is NO ONE else that makes any sense that could possibly have taken that final spot. And 99.9% of what's discussed on this board is speculation so to dismiss it with 'blah blah blah' is pretty backwards.

 

I really don't know why you were ever suspended and I really don't give a s*** either.

 

 

 

You make him out to be this great pitcher the way you speak of him. I think he was left in the bullpen in 2006 because we had 5 better pitchers than him in the rotation. He is and was not better than the Couint, Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, or Vazquez. If you think he is or was then there is the problem right there. I am not saying that there is anyone else or that there wasn't anyone else available to be on the playoff roster, but that does not mean Ozzie would have put him on there. He was looking for someone that would be better suited in the bullpen. Obviously, looking at what McCarthy did in 06, he could not handle bullpen duties. It is a distinct possibility that Ozzie would have looked elsewhere to fill that bullpen role in the playoffs if El Duque was at all injured.

 

You don't care why I was suspended or how many times, but you sure have no problem stating things you don't know or care about. That is quite odd. You brought that up, but you don't give a s***, how convenient for you.

Edited February 16, 2007 by southsideirish

[badatbest]

You make him out to be this great pitcher the way you speak of him. I think he was left in the bullpen in 2006 because we had 5 better pitchers than him in the rotation. He is and was not better than the Couint, Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, or Vazquez. If you think he is or was then there is the problem right there. I am not saying that there is anyone else or that there wasn't anyone else available to be on the playoff roster, but that does not mean Ozzie would have put him on there. He was looking for someone that would be better suited in the bullpen. Obviously, looking at what McCarthy did in 06, he could not handle bullpen duties. It is a distinct possibility that Ozzie would have looked elsewhere to fill that bullpen role in the playoffs if El Duque was at all injured.

 

You don't care why I was suspended or how many times, but you sure have no problem stating things you don't know or care about. That is quite odd. You brought that up, but you don't give a s***, how convenient for you.

 

Uhhhh? Looked elsewhere? It was way after the trade deadline and there was no one with near the experience or talent of McCarthy on the White sox roster. He had just pitched decidedly well in several huge pressure games. There was no other option besides McCarthy (if El Duque had been injured) for the playoffs in 05.

 

At the time i was pissed they didnt take McCarthy, that went away quickly after El Duque's magic act against Boston.