October 4, 200817 yr So Kenny wanted Torii, he wanted Miggy Cabrera, and Renteria. So let's say he got these players along with Quentin and Ramirez. What do you think this lineup would of been able to do? ALDS? ALCS? World Series? Renteria Pierzynski Quentin M. Cabrera Dye Hunter Thome Konerko Ramirez
October 4, 200817 yr First of all, Torii Hunter hasn't led the Angels anywhere. We did just fine beating Minnesota without him, and that contract will be a noose around their necks as he morphs into an average CF whose stat line is much closer to Mike Cameron than Grady Sizemore. I don't know who is our equivalent of Jair Jurrgens, but let's just say it would have cost us someone like Danks, McCarthy or Floyd (before they emerged). Actually, I wouldn't be totally shocked to see Renteria end up with the White Sox next year after DET declines his 2009 option for $12 million. We didn't have the players to make the Cabrera deal work like the Tigers...certainly no minor league equivalent of Cameron Maybin. Undoubtedly, it worked out for the best, for while Cabrera is an excellent offensive player when properly cajoled and motivated, he's a train wreck defensively and prone to getting overweight and sulking. But how these can be "typified" as blown deals is beyond me. While you're at it, add Aaron Rowand Kosuke Fukudome to the "blown deals," as we SUPPOSEDLY whiffed on those players as well. Imagine how fans would be all over KW if we owed Fukudome $38 million or something like that for the next three years? KW has never made a deal like that which broke so badly over the length of a long-term contract. You might argue that Vazquez or Contreras deals weren't great, but they were at least semi-logical and still could look again okay in the future. While we're at it, we should approach the Cubs' brass about taking Fukudome off their hands (if they subsidize about 50-65% of the contract) and put him in CF for the Sox in 2009.
October 4, 200817 yr Author Before the season started the Sun Times had this as the headline. They are blown trades because they were deals Kenny wanted but just couldn't get the triggered pulled from the other parties. This post is just a hypothetical question to see if this team would be better or worse than the team right now?
October 4, 200817 yr QUOTE (MO2005 @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 04:45 PM) So Kenny wanted Torii, he wanted Miggy Cabrera, and Renteria. So let's say he got these players along with Quentin and Ramirez. What do you think this lineup would of been able to do? ALDS? ALCS? World Series? Renteria Pierzynski Quentin M. Cabrera Dye Hunter Thome Konerko Ramirez You are assuming that if these acquisitions were made then CQ would have gotten the oportunity he did? Or even that Alexei would have had the chance to show us what he had at the major league level this year? I know what we would like in a perfect world, but it doesn't always happen the way we would like it to. The team made the best of what it had this year and maybe things would have been better if CQ, Contreras and Crede weren't injured. But, I am sure we will see some changes this winter, but they might not be what we all would like to see either. But, once again turning to NOW things ain't ovah till their ovah. We are still in post season play and have a chance now that we are back in Comiskey
October 4, 200817 yr QUOTE (MO2005 @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 10:45 AM) So Kenny wanted Torii, he wanted Miggy Cabrera, and Renteria. So let's say he got these players along with Quentin and Ramirez. What do you think this lineup would of been able to do? ALDS? ALCS? World Series? Renteria Pierzynski Quentin M. Cabrera Dye Hunter Thome Konerko Ramirez we would have been worse off. You wan Cab as a 3rd baseman? Where would he have started the season with crede healthy? Q wouldn't have gotten a shot with hunter in the mix and we probably wouldn't have one of Floyd or Danks since those are the trading chips people would have wanted. What about the 40 million dollar man fukadome? KW did as much as he could, and we went from 72 wins to a division title. I'll take that any year.
October 4, 200817 yr KW's plan B's C's and D's have actually been better than his plan A's. Bottom line is, as much as I have criticized him, and as much as I think his God-like status with some is ridiculous, his team is in the playoffs, and a team that looked like it was going to be bad for a long time has reason to believe the team should be pretty good for several more years.
October 4, 200817 yr QUOTE (MO2005 @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 06:29 PM) Wow I was just comparing the two scenarios! Ok, Kenny, but don't second guess yourself. We stil luv yah!
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