southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/...winter-spending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If they are going to spend significantly less -which in and of itself is ok- they need to listen to offers for Sale. Too many holes on this team to keep Sale and spend significantly less. I still think the payroll will be near last year's total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Just a speculative article -- of course we're not going to spend just to reach our budget ceiling, and we're not going to spend on aging guys that aren't a good bet to be good throughout all of the next 3-5 years. This means that there aren't any great looking free agent fits, but I think we're willing to spend if we can get the right guy in here. Headley on a pricey extension, for instance, would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 02:31 PM) If they are going to spend significantly less -which in and of itself is ok- they need to listen to offers for Sale. Too many holes on this team to keep Sale and spend significantly less. I still think the payroll will be near last year's total. Our lowest budget in the last decade led to a World Series team, after they got rid of the bloated salaries of Ordonez, Carlos Lee and Valentin. Spending, in and of itself, doesn't guarantee a winner, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 There should be a separate forum just for Sale trade talk, kind of like Trade Winds but maybe call it Egg Winds or something like that. You could use it to keep all the Sale trade talk in one place and since the topic gets so much attention you could also use it to make money for the site by allowing advertisers to post links to their products and services in there. And for a small fee you could allow them to post their links in a much larger font so that it makes it difficult to click on "Sale to Royals???" or "Diamondbacks interested in Sale" because you keep accidentally clicking on "Natural Male Enhancement NOW!" and "Soccer Mom Earns $2000 per Month Cash From Home!" and "Hi I'm Britney wanna see my cam." I think that's a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 06:50 PM) Our lowest budget in the last decade led to a World Series team, after they got rid of the bloated salaries of Ordonez, Carlos Lee and Valentin. Spending, in and of itself, doesn't guarantee a winner, either. You mention 2005 and that offseason. Crede was I believe arb eligible (not much $$$), Uribe was cheap, Rowand and Pods cheap, a cheap pen, Dye came here on a sweetheart deal, same with AJ, the Yanks were paying Contreras a good chunk of his salary, McCarthy was minimum, El Duque a bargain... that team was full of value. Sale offers some of the best value in the league factoring in production vs. salary, so going all 2005 would probably involve keeping players like that and trying to find more of them on the trade & FA market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 06:08 PM) You mention 2005 and that offseason. Crede was I believe arb eligible (not much $$$), Uribe was cheap, Rowand and Pods cheap, a cheap pen, Dye came here on a sweetheart deal, same with AJ, the Yanks were paying Contreras a good chunk of his salary, McCarthy was minimum, El Duque a bargain... that team was full of value. Sale offers some of the best value in the league factoring in production vs. salary, so going all 2005 would probably involve keeping players like that and trying to find more of them on the trade & FA market. And I'm almost positive that El Duque was $4.5 or 5.5 million in 2005 and was going to cost $6.5 million in 2006 (before we dealt him with C. Young for Javy)...so definitely not a cheap contract for a 5th starter/long reliever, although the 3 outs to bail out Marte in Boston made it all worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 If KW were still GM, an article like this would directly lead to a big free agent signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 10:07 PM) And I'm almost positive that El Duque was $4.5 or 5.5 million in 2005 and was going to cost $6.5 million in 2006 (before we dealt him with C. Young for Javy)...so definitely not a cheap contract for a 5th starter/long reliever, although the 3 outs to bail out Marte in Boston made it all worth it. $3.5 million in '05. $4.625 in '06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 09:31 PM) $3.5 million in '05. $4.625 in '06 Maybe it was with all the incentives that he could have reached a higher number...well, it wasn't exactly super cheap, but it didn't kill the budget, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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